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Re: Kerry v Cork
He has turned over at least 8 possessions. Don't rate Quirke too highly. Galvin on but for how long?
Jayo Cluxton- GAA Elite
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Jayo Cluxton wrote:He has turned over at least 8 possessions. Don't rate Quirke too highly. Galvin on but for how long?
I think you are being very harsh Jayo. I think he has had a good debut. Has been everywhere, and yes, has given away the ball a few times, but you have to get it to give it away, and nobody that Kerry has tried in midfield was able to get it. I think he has been very good.
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Sorry TC - lousy attempt at a point and that open goal miss seals it for me. That was game over.
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Jayo Cluxton wrote:Sorry TC - lousy attempt at a point and that open goal miss seals it for me. That was game over.
He is like Kevin Hughes for Tyrone Jayo. People moan about the ones he misses, but forget how much work he is doing. Counihan is obviously happy enough with what he is doing.
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OMAR wrote:6/1 the draw "in running"
Its an ill wind
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I'll agree with you on that one Jayo. Totally changed the game. Kerry are hugely reliant on him, probably more than any other player, with the arguable exception of Donaghy.Jayo Cluxton wrote:Galvin made the big difference there.
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OMAR wrote:6/1 the draw "in running"
I'd say the ref had this
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Brolly agreed with me on Walsh TC!!
Yeah Galvin is some man. He just shored it all up when he came in. He was in possession more times than some guys who had 70 minutes and was always calm and picked the right pass. He's far more important than Donaghy (scoreless today) in my opinion.
Yeah Galvin is some man. He just shored it all up when he came in. He was in possession more times than some guys who had 70 minutes and was always calm and picked the right pass. He's far more important than Donaghy (scoreless today) in my opinion.
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i would agree with you to a point on Walsh JC - he had a poor first 10-15 minutes then settled down a bit but he could have won the game for Cork with a bit more composure in front of goal. As for Donaghy was he even playing?????
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The "Star" didn't shine too brightly today
Familiarity breeds contempt and I think that was evidenced by the high card count but Hughes is as finicky as they come and in my opinion had a crucial impact on the outcome, he threw up a ball when the Kerry 'keeper allegedly took to long on a kick-out and Cork scored then despite signalling at least 3 minutes, he blew the final whistle 20 seconds shy of that (despite play being stopped for at least half a minute for Coopers free.
Marc O'Sé made a few decent locks but Kerrigan roasted him for pace. Tomás O'Sé (who in my opinion was robbed of the Footballer of the Year last year) was his usual reliable self and chipped in with 2 decent points. Galvin made a difference when he came on too but overall I felt Kerry were fairly lacklustre and after the results this weekend, will want to avoid the qualifiers like the plague or they might not even see August. It has to be a worry when only 3 of your starting 6 forwards are on the score sheet but can't see Donaghy having too many more off days.
Cork (who to be fair) haven't played since the league final, went 0-3 to 0-0 down after 10 minutes in Killarney and they didnt panic. After his rush of blood in the first minute, Shields did quite well. Paudie Kissane deservedly won the man-of-the-match. With a game now under their belts and home advantage, Cork should win the replay but based on today, the Rebels talk of a hurling and football double might be a little premature.
Familiarity breeds contempt and I think that was evidenced by the high card count but Hughes is as finicky as they come and in my opinion had a crucial impact on the outcome, he threw up a ball when the Kerry 'keeper allegedly took to long on a kick-out and Cork scored then despite signalling at least 3 minutes, he blew the final whistle 20 seconds shy of that (despite play being stopped for at least half a minute for Coopers free.
Marc O'Sé made a few decent locks but Kerrigan roasted him for pace. Tomás O'Sé (who in my opinion was robbed of the Footballer of the Year last year) was his usual reliable self and chipped in with 2 decent points. Galvin made a difference when he came on too but overall I felt Kerry were fairly lacklustre and after the results this weekend, will want to avoid the qualifiers like the plague or they might not even see August. It has to be a worry when only 3 of your starting 6 forwards are on the score sheet but can't see Donaghy having too many more off days.
Cork (who to be fair) haven't played since the league final, went 0-3 to 0-0 down after 10 minutes in Killarney and they didnt panic. After his rush of blood in the first minute, Shields did quite well. Paudie Kissane deservedly won the man-of-the-match. With a game now under their belts and home advantage, Cork should win the replay but based on today, the Rebels talk of a hurling and football double might be a little premature.
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fair enough shinners but the star still won ball and laid off for what should have been a goal which is what he is there for, man aiming at the keepers shin wasn't his fault
Whats the story with Miskella - he looked like a man well wintered ?
Whats the story with Miskella - he looked like a man well wintered ?
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I thought that alright - there wasn't much material wasted in his jersey
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Well another draw. Cork can feel that they left it behind. Dominated midfield area for 50 minutes. Walsh great winner of the ball but needs to get his shooting improved.
Paudie Kissane yes was man of match closely followed by Kerrigan and Tomas. Paul Galvin's introduction changed the game.Got involved from half back area and even a few attempts to rise him did not work. Star had a good game. Very little ball came his way mainly because of Cork's midfield domination. He won most ball that did come and was involved in a number of crucial scores. Cork probably will win the replay because I feel(proved me wrong last) the two Toms and MicK Mac may not have the legs this year and Kery will find it hard to cancels Cork's midfield strengh(and Nicholas Murphy may be back) Still a great athmospere in Killarney plus an exicing game.This is real sport.
Paudie Kissane yes was man of match closely followed by Kerrigan and Tomas. Paul Galvin's introduction changed the game.Got involved from half back area and even a few attempts to rise him did not work. Star had a good game. Very little ball came his way mainly because of Cork's midfield domination. He won most ball that did come and was involved in a number of crucial scores. Cork probably will win the replay because I feel(proved me wrong last) the two Toms and MicK Mac may not have the legs this year and Kery will find it hard to cancels Cork's midfield strengh(and Nicholas Murphy may be back) Still a great athmospere in Killarney plus an exicing game.This is real sport.
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Why was Aidan Walsh left on for the entire game? I thought it was obvious he was having a bad day from the start. Kicked wides, got turned over in possession, misplaced passes..
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Jonsmith wrote:Why was Aidan Walsh left on for the entire game? I thought it was obvious he was having a bad day from the start. Kicked wides, got turned over in possession, misplaced passes..
It's a long time since I saw a performance that has been as debated as much as this one. I thought he played well, and was unlucky with a few turnovers and the goal chance. I can totally understand why Counihan left him on.
He won a huge amount of ball, covered every blade of grass, and was the only midfielder to last 70 minutes, quite simply because he was the best midfielder on the pitch. When he tired in the last 15 minutes, Kerry came back into it (helped hugely, it must be added, by Galvin, but Walsh tiring was also important).
Cork didn't blow it because of Aidan Walsh missing a goal chance after bursting forward from midfield, they blew it because, Kerrigan aside, none of their forwards were on top of their men.
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I accept he put in a huge amount of work and won a huge amount of ball. I also acknowledge the lad is 19 and was making his championship debut. However it has to be said he turned over the ball numerous times - sometimes not in contact or in very light contact. This can be especially dangerous as you may have team mates breaking forward and all of a sudden the ball is lost. His point attempt was poor and his goal chance too - but it has to be appreciated he was there to have the attempt.
Obviously one viewing does not make one's mind up and he has definite potential - though whether he will be a 'footballing' midfielder looks doubtful to me on the evidence of Sunday. I think when you add up all the possessions and usages of same, the attempts at goal etc then he had a poor enough game.
Obviously one viewing does not make one's mind up and he has definite potential - though whether he will be a 'footballing' midfielder looks doubtful to me on the evidence of Sunday. I think when you add up all the possessions and usages of same, the attempts at goal etc then he had a poor enough game.
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Great news for all Kerry fans. Replay switched to 2pm throw in to allow RTE to cover it instead of the Meath match. Thought we would all get wet watching it in a stream or somthing like that.
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God I'd have thought RTE would have preferred to cover a potentially entertaining game which Meath-Laois should be rather than subject us to another 70 minutes of 6 foot 4, 14 stone athletes with no football ability trying to break down a blanket defence ....
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Jayo Cluxton wrote:God I'd have thought RTE would have preferred to cover a potentially entertaining game which Meath-Laois should be rather than subject us to another 70 minutes of 6 foot 4, 14 stone athletes with no football ability trying to break down a blanket defence ....
Over the last 10 years or so football has as you said turned into a sport in which you have to be 6ft+, athletic and strong. I would argue that their are no longer any football stars like Michael Donnelan and Maurice Fitz of the 90's, those days are gone forever and so has the entertainment value got from a football match.
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Disagree Clash - there are still some very talented natural footballers out there, Bernard Brogan for one. But it does semm some counties are opting for physique, stamina and athleticism over football ability - Cork are a particularly good example. Problem is when you have little or no talent up front its hard to score ....
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Shame I didn't get to see this at the weekend, sounds like it was an interesting contest and this Walsh lad seems to have divided opinion. Bound to be another tight game in the replay.
Would have to disagree also Clash, there are still natural footballers out there who can outplay the "athletes". Cork are a team who look very much like a group of athletes, big strong lumps of lads. However I do think they have the players up front to knock it over the bar too, which makes them all the tougher to play against.
Would have to disagree also Clash, there are still natural footballers out there who can outplay the "athletes". Cork are a team who look very much like a group of athletes, big strong lumps of lads. However I do think they have the players up front to knock it over the bar too, which makes them all the tougher to play against.
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mossbags wrote:This game means nothing. Complete waste of time.
On watching yesterdays match it would appear that the players were in complete agreement with the comment above.
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I must disagree. Just because players are big does not mean they are lacking talent.Also Canty,Kissane,Kerrigan,O'Neill,Goulding,Shiels to name a few, all have natural ability. Just because Walsh's kicking was not great does not mean he will not develop into an all round midfielder in the future.After all he is only a young lad. I remember Jacko's first couple of years playing senior and by god was he raw.So watching forwards kick points from all angles is great but in reality a lot of time there no marker within twenty yards.You have to judge each contest in its own right.
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