Kerry v Cork

bocerty wrote:

veiled threat!!!!!! How do you work that one out????

The bit where you said:

"Some day he will provoke the wrong guy and get his just rewards for it."

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I'd see it as a veiled threat. Anyway, I'm not here to debate semantics. If you want, you can have that one. But you never answered any of the questions in my post at 11:49.

3inarow08 wrote:

bocerty wrote:

veiled threat!!!!!! How do you work that one out????

The bit where you said:

"Some day he will provoke the wrong guy and get his just rewards for it."

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I'd see it as a veiled threat. Anyway, I'm not here to debate semantics. If you want, you can have that one. But you never answered any of the questions in my post at 11:49.

Triona how would it be a veiled threat - did i threaten anything i dont think so - what i meant is someday he'll argue with the wrong guy and end up getting a bit of his own medicine.

Just having a laugh at your signature too Triona regarding opinions

Thomas Clarke wrote:

3inarow08 wrote:
Is there any problem with it? We all know the individuals I named. They are anonymous internet posters. No harm done is there? Are we not doing more harm by naming and shaming individuals whom everyone knows (ie. Gaelic footballers, hurlers, management, referees etc.)??? Libel, slander, defamation and all that jazz.

Sounds like a very fair point to me.

A fair point? Not really, other forums don't let you mention this site on them and don't print posts that mention posters not registered with them so why should this one advertise other forums that don't reciprocate?

We talk about teams and players as that is the nature of the beast so i don't really see your point there, libel, slander and defamation are a risk that is usually sorted out quickly by the admin here, and as for Jazz, well i'm not really into that!

bald eagle wrote:
A fair point? Not really, other forums don't let you mention this site on them and don't print posts that mention posters not registered with them so why should this one advertise other forums that don't reciprocate?

We talk about teams and players as that is the nature of the beast so i don't really see your point there, libel, slander and defamation are a risk that is usually sorted out quickly by the admin here, and as for Jazz, well i'm not really into that!

Oh come on BE, we are all adults here (aside from a few intelligent and mature juvenilles!).

Do you really think that mentioning other websites is acting as advertising for them? Has anyone posting on here really never heard of HS, for instance? Sure that is where almost all of us came from! And are you really saying that the mention of Dellboypolecat or Pomeroy Plunkett is going to drive GAATipster's loyal posters over to HS??

Let's be grown ups, and not pretend that other sites don't exist. And as for the posters on those sites, they are anonymous, so I still maintain that mentioning them is more acceptable than mentioning real-life footballers, managers, refs etc. Just because the aren't here to speak for themselves themselves is irrelevant - neither are Paul Galvin, Ryan McMenamin etc...

Bald Eagle I guess if there was a problem with it then it would have been removed by the moderators on here. Just like if you mentioned this forum on other places the moderators there would act as they saw fit, as you said.

But I like to think that the reason that this forum is superior to others is the fact that the moderators here are also posters and know what's it's like to have a post edited, and at times can be sound!

Either way, I'm dropping this.

As an aside, anyone ever see this picture before? (not trying to justify or defend Galvin - more a point that things these days are blown out of proportion, especially by the Sunday Game)


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3inarow08 wrote:As an aside, anyone ever see this picture before? (not trying to justify or defend Galvin - more a point that things these days are blown out of proportion, especially by the Sunday Game)


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theres another one we can add to the list - biting, absolutely disgraceful makes Galvin look like an altar boy!!!!

bocerty wrote:

3inarow08 wrote:As an aside, anyone ever see this picture before? (not trying to justify or defend Galvin - more a point that things these days are blown out of proportion, especially by the Sunday Game)


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theres another one we can add to the list - biting, absolutely disgraceful makes Galvin look like an altar boy!!!!

Them Munster teams are rough kids!!! Jaysus you wouldnt get that in Ulster. We are handbags compared to them

3inarow08 wrote:Bald Eagle I guess if there was a problem with it then it would have been removed by the moderators on here. Just like if you mentioned this forum on other places the moderators there would act as they saw fit, as you said.

But I like to think that the reason that this forum is superior to others is the fact that the moderators here are also posters and know what's it's like to have a post edited, and at times can be sound!

Either way, I'm dropping this.

firstly BE has a point to an extent - try dropping a post onto another GAA site (we all know which one) containing the name of this site or the names of any of our posters who used to post there and you will find it wont be published. TC also has a point that if isnt really a form of advertising either but why should we let it happen here when it is not reciprocated elsewhere, perhaps other sites feel threatened!!!!

secondly, and this is for Triona and RFK - i dont have an issue with Kerry supporters or players, my posts may sometimes come across like i do but thats certainly not the intention. I do have to admit though that i wouldnt be PGs biggest fan. He is a wonderful footballer of that there is no doubt so i dont see why he has to indulge in the antics he gets up to. People say he is singled out for special treatment, my response is he has no one to blame for that but himself, he has built up that reputation almost single handedly so its little wonder teams 'focus' on him for winding up etc

Granted he is not alone there are others and we in Tyrone have had one or two ourselves, (Paul Donnelly of the 90s team being one of them)

What i do find amusing is that posters on here see fit to criticise the players who left a 19 year old Armagh lad in hospital not fit to eat and yet in another breath they are making excuses for Galvin and dismissing his actions on the field.

I have little time for this sort of sh!te be it at u8 level or senior county level, only recently we have lost a young lad from the sport of football because the abuse he was getting and he is only u12 he was getting dogs abuse from opponents who saw fit to single him out - he was getting punched kicked nipped and the last straw for him was spitting. Not once did he retaliate but eventually enough was enough and now he is playing soccer.

So its not a problem i have with Galvin more an issue with the type of player he is in terms of his ability to start a row out of nothing. Yes the Sunday Game lads have highlighted his misdemeanors and some may say thats unfair, at the end of the day those guys are there to analyse games and the major incidents and Galvin gives them plenty of ammunition - and if it wasnt the Sunday Game lads it would be the Press. To say he is being singled out is perhaps a tad lazy, name another player in the last number of years who has served the same number of suspensions as he has?????

The whole point has been missed.

Galvin is NOT a dirty player.

No-one from Antrim goaded him last year, and we saw a man at the peak of his power playing FOOTBALL.

Leave him alone and he is fine.

patrique wrote:The whole point has been missed.

Galvin is NOT a dirty player.

No-one from Antrim goaded him last year, and we saw a man at the peak of his power playing FOOTBALL.

Leave him alone and he is fine.

A very true point Patrique, he is a brilliant footballer and it's too easy for people to lose sight of this.

A guy i work with, and English lad who until he met me had never heard of Gaelic Football, watched a full re-run of the game on MSK. He hadn't a clue of any of the rules however the first thing he said when telling me his view on the match was that Galvin (although he named him by the number on his back) was easily the best player on the park and that his influence on the game was immense.

It's an easy thing to see when an English soccer lover who had never seen a game of Gaelic Football before picked Galvin out as the man who changed the game. The GAA, and in particular Gaelic Football, has this growing trend of goading players to make them snap, i've been on the recieving end more times than i care to remember and only ever took it as a compliment (except once as previously mentioned). It's sad but a fact of sporting life, gifted players will get "special" treatment, and Galvin is a hell of a player!

And even when he does retaliate, it's not as though he is kicking people in the head or something.

No, the media have a witch hunt against him and others, blow everything out of proportion, and Galvin suffers.

The McD's in Antrim had a look at him but didn't want any weaklings and nice guys ruining their reputation.

patrique wrote:The whole point has been missed.

Galvin is NOT a dirty player.

No-one from Antrim goaded him last year, and we saw a man at the peak of his power playing FOOTBALL.

Leave him alone and he is fine.

Galvin is a dirty player. The fact that goading brings out this streak in him is irrelevant, it is there to be brought out. Granted he's different than a player who will go out and box off the ball without provocation but he's far from a saint. Look at other players like Sean Cavanagh, often subject to goading etc (on instance in particular by our own Nicholas Walsh) but how many times has be been suspended?

Jonsmith wrote:

patrique wrote:The whole point has been missed.

Galvin is NOT a dirty player.

No-one from Antrim goaded him last year, and we saw a man at the peak of his power playing FOOTBALL.

Leave him alone and he is fine.

Galvin is a dirty player. The fact that goading brings out this streak in him is irrelevant, it is there to be brought out. Granted he's different than a player who will go out and box off the ball without provocation but he's far from a saint. Look at other players like Sean Cavanagh, often subject to goading etc (on instance in particular by our own Nicholas Walsh) but how many times has be been suspended?

my point exactly JS - the Gooch takes more abuse than Galvin - Stephen O' Neill gets it by the bucketfull and yet how many times have they retaliated and got sent off- O'Neill and Gooch retaliate by sticking the ball over the bar or in the back of the net which Galvin is more than capable of doing too.

If he was a **** footballer throwing his weight about i would almost understand him - but he is such a talent it hard to comprehend why he feels the need to carry out these acts instead of letting his football do the talking.

bocerty wrote:[Galvin is NOT a dirty player.

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Familiar with the old phrase "If you kick a dog often enough he'll finally bite you".....Galvin cleared for A/I semi-finala any rate..Perhaps he'll dominate the final...

Jonsmith wrote:

patrique wrote:The whole point has been missed.

Galvin is NOT a dirty player.

No-one from Antrim goaded him last year, and we saw a man at the peak of his power playing FOOTBALL.

Leave him alone and he is fine.

Galvin is a dirty player. The fact that goading brings out this streak in him is irrelevant, it is there to be brought out. Granted he's different than a player who will go out and box off the ball without provocation but he's far from a saint. Look at other players like Sean Cavanagh, often subject to goading etc (on instance in particular by our own Nicholas Walsh) but how many times has be been suspended?

Sean Cavanagh is what they call in Belfast a "windy" player.

Excellent player, but tries to referee the game or collapses in a heap rather than retaliate.

Each to his own.

patrique wrote:
Sean Cavanagh is what they call in Belfast a "windy" player.

Excellent player, but tries to referee the game or collapses in a heap rather than retaliate.

Each to his own.

So Galvin is a dirty player and Cavanagh has a tendency to not retaliate. Agreed.

Just because you retaliate doesn't mean you are a dirty player, that is a completely different thing you are on about! For me the dirty player is the one doing the goading and nipping, not the target!

Nobody's denying that the person doing the goading is at fault BE but in fairness if I tell Galvin to go back to Kerry and throw dusters at some kids and he sticks his finger in my mouth and pulls at my cheek you'd say I'm the dirty player and Galvin was... what? Blameless? Justified?

You and pat are saying that if a player is not dirty when he's not provoked then he's not a dirty player..

I have a friend who is not a thief. He's a completely law abiding citizen and would never go around breaking into and robbing houses. Unless of course you go and leave your door open, then he'll rob you blind.. But sure you've left your door open so your asking for it right? I mean he wouldn't do it unless the opportunity presented itself. Just everyone lock their doors and my mate will never commit a crime. As RG would say "Simples!"

Hmmm, i think you're idea of a dirty player is still way off the mark but at least your attempt at a comparison was amusing.

The comparison was tongue in Cheek BE no need for the slightly patronising attitude..

For me someone who is willing to:
-Fishhook another player (A practice not allowed in the UFC)
-Assault a ref
-Elbow and punch another player off the ball
Is a dirty player. Provocation is not an excuse or a justification if you punch someone on a night out so why should it be here?

Oh the point of view we take when reading from a computer screen! I was being serious and not patronising FFS!!!!!

This should be renamed the Franz Klammer thread ... it's going downhill fast ......

bald eagle wrote:Oh the point of view we take when reading from a computer screen! I was being serious and not patronising FFS!!!!!

Then I apologise BE.. We'll agree to differ..

Jonsmith wrote:
Then I apologise BE.. We'll agree to differ..

Christ don't be doing that. Otherwise there's not much point to this forum. Stick to your guns JS. Galvin sympathysers from outside of Kerry are a strange breed. They tell themselves that it is a media witchhunt and that they are too clever to be influenced by the meejia. In doing all this they forget to acknowledge the actual incidents at hand and see for themselves the evidence, of which there is quite a lot and buckets more arriving every year.
If they had done this it would be clear to them that Galvin is consistintly one of the dirtiest footballers going possessed of a real nasty streak. And as for goading there is none to match the Finuge man for underhanded comments to his opponents, you'd swear he was a Tipp hurler with some of the filth he is famed for spouting on the pitch.
Great Player - Yes
Scumbag - Yes