Re: Euro 2012 Thread

**Parouisa** Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 pm

I would have O'Shea at left full with his laces tied together before I'd have Killer.

**The Puke** Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:23 pm

Parouisa wrote:I would have O'Shea at left full with his laces tied together before I'd have Killer.

Kilbane did very little wrong under Trap at left back. Strong in the air and solid defensively, Bulgaria were the only side to have much joy down our left. Would much rather someone else make a go of the position but I wouldn't be jettisioning him for the sake of it til we have an decent alternative. Moving O'Shea from right back would be a poor decision.

**Parouisa** Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:32 pm

Your opinion. Kilbane while a great servant has been a liability for years now. To say he has done very little wrong for Trap is a bit baffling. Did he become a better player under this manager? I have seen him have many bad games under Trap.

**The Puke** Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:53 pm

Parouisa wrote:Your opinion. Kilbane while a great servant has been a liability for years now. To say he has done very little wrong for Trap is a bit baffling. Did he become a better player under this manager? I have seen him have many bad games under Trap.

Please cite a few examples where he was terrible in a defensive sense.

He may not be much of an option on the ball or in an attacking sense but defensive stability is the main attribute we need in a left full and he is still as good if not better than any of the alternatives at this point in time

**Parouisa** Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:18 pm

The Puke wrote:Please cite a few examples where he was terrible in a defensive sense.

He may not be much of an option on the ball or in an attacking sense but defensive stability is the main attribute we need in a left full and he is still as good if not better than any of the alternatives at this point in time

Jeeze they really are too numerous to mention. Really. You would appear to have a completely different view of football than mine.

**Boxtyeater** Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:49 pm

Jeez, this Parouisa newbie is tiresome, advocating the jettonising of a great servant like Kevin Kilbane in favour of literal unknowns.
For once in his time here Pukey is on the money, should Ireland qualify for this tournament, then Kilbane must be in the squad....

**The Puke** Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:45 am

Robbie Keane is back in training and should be fit for Estonia

**The Puke** Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:57 pm

What a great group of lads we have.

**Grenvile** Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:13 pm

Great start. Walters playing very well. Looks like there could be more goals there for the taking.

**Real Kerry Fan** Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:01 pm

Nice nice.

**Parouisa** Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:06 am

Well done to the lads. If only they were allowed play football.

**Parouisa** Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:16 am

We were one up into the second half and a man up but were under severe pressure. Richard Dunne got his foot to a low free from the left and it could have gone anywhere but just cleared the post for a corner. It could easily have been 1-1. If it went in I reckon we'd have been hanging on for the draw but instead we go up the other end shortly after for 2-0. Small margins, small margins.

**GAA-Fan** Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:38 pm

Ireland 28-1 to win 5-0.

**bald eagle** Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:24 pm

Did Estonia clear it with the Dublin County Board to wear the blue shirts? Razz

**Loyal2TheRoyal** Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:40 pm

Well done Trap. Hard to believe a team with Given, St. Ledger, Ward, Hunt, Andrews, Doyle and Whelan in it's starting team, and McGeady, Kelly, O'Dea, Cox and Walters has qualifed for a major tournament. Though when the opposition is as mediocre as us, anything is possible.

Here is the Irish team I'd like to see at Euro 2012:

Shay Given

Seamus Coleman - Richard Dunne - John O'Shea - Ciaran Clark

Darron Gibson - James McCarthy - Wes Hoolahan

Damian Duff - Leon Best - Robbie Keane

Hard to look past the Germans and the Spanish though.

**Loyal2TheRoyal** Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:52 pm

So here's the 16 teams - this is how I would rank them.

Spain - Germany - England - Holland

France - Italy - Russia - Czech Republic

Greece - Croatia - Ukraine - Denmark

Ireland - Sweden - Poland - Bosnia/Herzegovina/Portugal

Is this the Group of Debt: Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland?

**Parouisa** Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:40 pm

A few years ago I'd have been celebrating my head off. Am totally indifferent now but good to see an Irish team get to the Euros again after 24 years. Have a feeling we are in for some thumpings though.

**Boxtyeater** Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:54 pm

For sale....Drives like new. Fully serviced, MOT and newish tyres....Offers over €5k by PM please.
These yokes are going to be in fierce demand after the Christmas as hordes of un-employed Irish reverse the role on the denizens of Poland.

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**Loyal2TheRoyal** Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:57 pm

Parouisa wrote:A few years ago I'd have been celebrating my head off. Am totally indifferent now but good to see an Irish team get to the Euros again after 24 years. Have a feeling we are in for some thumpings though.

I can't see Ireland getting thumped against anybody other than Spain or Germany - we are stubborn like that.

We'll be 4th seeds I'd say? So surely our best hope is to target the 3rd seeds for a win, and keep the top two teams scoreless.

An attck of Ozil, Muller, Kroos, Gotze and Gomez would do damage.

**OMAR** Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:59 pm

Bets being hedged

Flights booked to Berlin €150 - camper van hired €1200 for 10 days
We will cross the Polish border from Germany which I don't think has been done before. Twisted Evil

If we end up in the Group thats in the far side of Ukraine- attendance at any of the soccerball may be an afterthought

**Boxtyeater** Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:02 pm

OMAR clearly not interested in
A. The Donegal managers job or
B. The vacancy in the Donegal half back line.......

**Boxtyeater** Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:10 pm

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:I can't see Ireland getting thumped against anybody other than Spain or Germany - we are stubborn like that.

We'll be 4th seeds I'd say? So surely our best hope is to target the 3rd seeds for a win, and keep the top two teams scoreless.

An attck of Ozil, Muller, Kroos, Gotze and Gomez would do damage.

As far as I know this is a harder competition to progress in than the World Cup. At the WC you could get a country that qualified from the Oceanic region for example and we may possibly beat them and quarry out the usual 0-0 draw somewhere else and possibly progress.
The current crop, bereft of any real talent, are unlikely to become an overnight threat to anyone apart from the livers of those who follow their adventures at home or abroad....

A great boost for the country.... Euro 2012 Thread - Page 16 Smiley31

**bald eagle** Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:47 am

Seeds likely as follows -

Pot One: Poland, Ukraine, Spain, Holland

Pot two: Germany, Italy, England, Russia

Pot three: Croatia, Portugal, Greece, Sweden

Pot four: France, Denmark, Czech Republic, Republic of Ireland

Who would you like in our group?

I wouldn't mind Poland, England, Greece! England simply for the derby factor and that i think we could get a result and the others for the fact i think we could beat them!

**Real Kerry Fan** Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:23 am

Best option. Ukraine,England and Greece.Three weakest in their pots. Worst scenario: Spain,Germany and Portugal.
Ole Ole Ole.

**Podger** Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:14 pm

Real Kerry Fan wrote:Best option. Ukraine,England and Greece.Three weakest in their pots. Worst scenario: Spain,Germany and Portugal.

Wd have Poland before Ukrain e anyday.

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