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Post  mid-mon man Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:21 am

As far as physical teams go, Monaghan are no heavyweights by any stretch of the imagination. We are but mere flyweights in the grand scheme of things, with the likes of McManus, Gollogly, McArdle, Downey, Freeman backboning our team!
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Now Cork, there's another proposition altogether. Absolute giants of men, and now they've added genuine class to their dominating physicality. In the league game Aisake came on and JP Mone was marking him, one of our bigger players, and Aisake was about half a foot taller! They've players like that all over the pitch. In terms of physical teams, Cork would be the benchmark, and as it's been said very few will match that.
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Post  JimWexford Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:26 am

mid-mon man wrote:As far as physical teams go, Monaghan are no heavyweights by any stretch of the imagination. We are but mere flyweights in the grand scheme of things, with the likes of McManus, Gollogly, McArdle, Downey, Freeman backboning our team!
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Now Cork, there's another proposition altogether. Absolute giants of men, and now they've added genuine class to their dominating physicality. In the league game Aisake came on and JP Mone was marking him, one of our bigger players, and Aisake was about half a foot taller! They've players like that all over the pitch. In terms of physical teams, Cork would be the benchmark, and as it's been said very few will match that.

have too agree one of the bigest teams I've ever seen
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Post  GAA-Fan Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:29 am

Henderson could play but we have other options up front in Mallon, O'Rouke, Forker, Kernan, Feeney, Toal - if he comes back, he will be lethal. We also have Ronan Clarke's brother who is suppose to be a lot better than him.

In Midfield I expect Vernon and Toner to take these position but once again we have a few options here in McKenna who is a big lad, would absolutely love it if McGrane decided to come back Razz Shannon and Lavery are also options.

In defence we have a few options too but cant give you an analysis as I missed the first half of Armagh vs Tyrone.

Hearty is a liability but can pull off some fine saves.
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Post  mid-mon man Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:33 am

JimWexford wrote:
mid-mon man wrote:As far as physical teams go, Monaghan are no heavyweights by any stretch of the imagination. We are but mere flyweights in the grand scheme of things, with the likes of McManus, Gollogly, McArdle, Downey, Freeman backboning our team!
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Now Cork, there's another proposition altogether. Absolute giants of men, and now they've added genuine class to their dominating physicality. In the league game Aisake came on and JP Mone was marking him, one of our bigger players, and Aisake was about half a foot taller! They've players like that all over the pitch. In terms of physical teams, Cork would be the benchmark, and as it's been said very few will match that.

have too agree one of the bigest teams I've ever seen

Actually there's one thing I'm not sure about, has Aisake quit the football and just in the hurling now? Our league game was just after he returned from Austrailia and he probably wasn't sure which he wanted to play. Nevertheless, their team for the most part are all 6 footers and most of those a good bit taller too, huge men.
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Post  GAA-Fan Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:18 pm

Whats your opinion on McEnaney comments about the qualifiers mmm?
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Post  mid-mon man Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:28 pm

GAA-Fan wrote:Whats your opinion on McEnaney comments about the qualifiers mmm?

Interesting comment alright Admin, McDonnell wasn't bothered who Armagh got while Banty says it's the toughest draw going. But he's right too, I'd say he's rightly annoyed at our bad luck in the qualifiers at this stage, and this is again the toughest game possible. You could say he's trying to play down Monaghan and talking up Armagh, and is pointing to the fact that it's a big ask without Tommy. All that's fine with me, the less expectation on us the better. Armagh is certainly the toughest draw we could have got, but that doesn't mean Banty isn't confident. Big ask though.
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Post  sportstime Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:30 pm

mid-mon man wrote:
JimWexford wrote:
mid-mon man wrote:As far as physical teams go, Monaghan are no heavyweights by any stretch of the imagination. We are but mere flyweights in the grand scheme of things, with the likes of McManus, Gollogly, McArdle, Downey, Freeman backboning our team!
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Now Cork, there's another proposition altogether. Absolute giants of men, and now they've added genuine class to their dominating physicality. In the league game Aisake came on and JP Mone was marking him, one of our bigger players, and Aisake was about half a foot taller! They've players like that all over the pitch. In terms of physical teams, Cork would be the benchmark, and as it's been said very few will match that.

have too agree one of the bigest teams I've ever seen

Actually there's one thing I'm not sure about, has Aisake quit the football and just in the hurling now? Our league game was just after he returned from Austrailia and he probably wasn't sure which he wanted to play. Nevertheless, their team for the most part are all 6 footers and most of those a good bit taller too, huge men.

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Post  Guest Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:32 pm

GAA-Fan wrote:Henderson could play but we have other options up front in Mallon, O'Rouke, Forker, Kernan, Feeney, Toal - if he comes back, he will be lethal. We also have Ronan Clarke's brother who is suppose to be a lot better than him.

In Midfield I expect Vernon and Toner to take these position but once again we have a few options here in McKenna who is a big lad, would absolutely love it if McGrane decided to come back Razz Shannon and Lavery are also options.

In defence we have a few options too but cant give you an analysis as I missed the first half of Armagh vs Tyrone.

Hearty is a liability but can pull off some fine saves.



doubtfull henderson will start. Toal wont be back and Clarkes brother left the panel becuase he wasnt good enough to play regularly. Shannon a midfield option? He is nowhere near big enough and plays at corner back or wing back. You really from Armagh? scratch

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Post  GAA-Fan Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:34 pm

I cant stop thinking about this game. I think the Armagh team arent going to be too bothered if you look at what the pundits have been saying over the past few years - 'Armagh have too many miles on the clock' what they dont realise is that we dont have the same talent anymore either. Once again teams seem to look at Armagh over the past few years instead of what they are like now. Yes we still have Clarke, McDonnell, O'Rouke but thats all there is.
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Post  GAA-Fan Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:38 pm

samin10 wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:Henderson could play but we have other options up front in Mallon, O'Rouke, Forker, Kernan, Feeney, Toal - if he comes back, he will be lethal. We also have Ronan Clarke's brother who is suppose to be a lot better than him.

In Midfield I expect Vernon and Toner to take these position but once again we have a few options here in McKenna who is a big lad, would absolutely love it if McGrane decided to come back Razz Shannon and Lavery are also options.

In defence we have a few options too but cant give you an analysis as I missed the first half of Armagh vs Tyrone.

Hearty is a liability but can pull off some fine saves.



doubtfull henderson will start. Toal wont be back and Clarkes brother left the panel becuase he wasnt good enough to play regularly. Shannon a midfield option? He is nowhere near big enough and plays at corner back or wing back. You really from Armagh? scratch

I dont live in Armagh Samin, and my uncle dosent seem to phone me anymore. I have to live of information on websites. But also been told that Toal is off the panel to, is this correct?
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Post  Jayo Cluxton Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:38 pm

GAA-Fan wrote:what they dont realise is that we dont have the same talent anymore either.

Thats a change of tune there GAA Fan. You were until recently reckoning that there was some serious talent coming through the Armagh set-up. Have you changed your mind and why.
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Post  GAA-Fan Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:40 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:what they dont realise is that we dont have the same talent anymore either.

Thats a change of tune there GAA Fan. You were until recently reckoning that there was some serious talent coming through the Armagh set-up. Have you changed your mind and why.

No. We have talent but nowhere near the standards of Oisin, McGrane, Bellew etc yet. Another thing, I said we didnt have the same talent that we once had.
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Post  Jayo Cluxton Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:44 pm

GAA-Fan wrote:
Jayo Cluxton wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:what they dont realise is that we dont have the same talent anymore either.

Thats a change of tune there GAA Fan. You were until recently reckoning that there was some serious talent coming through the Armagh set-up. Have you changed your mind and why.

No. We have talent but nowhere near the standards of Oisin, McGrane, Bellew etc yet. Another thing, I said we didnt have the same talent that we once had.

Ok but before the season started you thought that Armagh's demise was greatly exaggerated but now you seem to be agreeing with it to a degree ....
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Post  GAA-Fan Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:48 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:
Jayo Cluxton wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:what they dont realise is that we dont have the same talent anymore either.

Thats a change of tune there GAA Fan. You were until recently reckoning that there was some serious talent coming through the Armagh set-up. Have you changed your mind and why.

No. We have talent but nowhere near the standards of Oisin, McGrane, Bellew etc yet. Another thing, I said we didnt have the same talent that we once had.

Ok but before the season started you thought that Armagh's demise was greatly exaggerated but now you seem to be agreeing with it to a degree ....

We lost to Tyrone by a kick of the ball but now we have another Ulster team, if im honest I can see Armagh winning this by 3-4 points but like I have said before the management need to get it right from the start. Whoever loses this match will also lose their manager I think.
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Post  Jayo Cluxton Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:52 pm

GAA-Fan wrote:Whoever loses this match will also lose their manager I think.

Yep I think that's a good call and I'd say whichever will walk without waiting to be pushed.
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Post  GAA-Fan Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:54 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:Whoever loses this match will also lose their manager I think.

Yep I think that's a good call and I'd say whichever will walk without waiting to be pushed.

And Kildare might lose their's and they arent even playing Razz

Whoever wins this and if they get Kerry next round and take them out, they will be unstoppable.
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Post  mid-mon man Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:55 pm

Well to be honest I think this is Banty's last year regardless of this result, an Ulster title was the only goal.
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Post  Guest Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:05 pm

GAA-Fan wrote:
samin10 wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:Henderson could play but we have other options up front in Mallon, O'Rouke, Forker, Kernan, Feeney, Toal - if he comes back, he will be lethal. We also have Ronan Clarke's brother who is suppose to be a lot better than him.

In Midfield I expect Vernon and Toner to take these position but once again we have a few options here in McKenna who is a big lad, would absolutely love it if McGrane decided to come back Razz Shannon and Lavery are also options.

In defence we have a few options too but cant give you an analysis as I missed the first half of Armagh vs Tyrone.

Hearty is a liability but can pull off some fine saves.



doubtfull henderson will start. Toal wont be back and Clarkes brother left the panel becuase he wasnt good enough to play regularly. Shannon a midfield option? He is nowhere near big enough and plays at corner back or wing back. You really from Armagh? scratch

I dont live in Armagh Samin, and my uncle dosent seem to phone me anymore. I have to live of information on websites. But also been told that Toal is off the panel to, is this correct?


yeah Toal left the panel early enough during the league. Heard a few different stories not sure if true or not, one thing is for certain he would be a huge addition to the half forward line if he did come back. Wont happen though. Hopefully Vernon goes to no11.

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Post  GAA-Fan Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:09 pm

mid-mon man wrote:Well to be honest I think this is Banty's last year regardless of this result, an Ulster title was the only goal.
Monaghan might benefit from a new manager
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Post  GAA-Fan Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:10 pm

samin10 wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:
samin10 wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:Henderson could play but we have other options up front in Mallon, O'Rouke, Forker, Kernan, Feeney, Toal - if he comes back, he will be lethal. We also have Ronan Clarke's brother who is suppose to be a lot better than him.

In Midfield I expect Vernon and Toner to take these position but once again we have a few options here in McKenna who is a big lad, would absolutely love it if McGrane decided to come back Razz Shannon and Lavery are also options.

In defence we have a few options too but cant give you an analysis as I missed the first half of Armagh vs Tyrone.

Hearty is a liability but can pull off some fine saves.



doubtfull henderson will start. Toal wont be back and Clarkes brother left the panel becuase he wasnt good enough to play regularly. Shannon a midfield option? He is nowhere near big enough and plays at corner back or wing back. You really from Armagh? scratch

I dont live in Armagh Samin, and my uncle dosent seem to phone me anymore. I have to live of information on websites. But also been told that Toal is off the panel to, is this correct?


yeah Toal left the panel early enough during the league. Heard a few different stories not sure if true or not, one thing is for certain he would be a huge addition to the half forward line if he did come back. Wont happen though. Hopefully Vernon goes to no11.

Hopefully Toal, P McKeever, McGrane and Bellew all come back. How much of a lift wuld that be to the team!! - not going to happen though.
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Post  GAA-Fan Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:47 pm

Stephen Kernan is out for the Monaghan match.
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Post  rich dublin Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:28 pm

GAA-Fan wrote:Stephen Kernan is out for the Monaghan match.

dont know if that is a good thing or bad thing for tipster dream team??? no scores for him but then again no scores against!!!! Suspect
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Post  bocerty Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:31 pm

GAA-Fan wrote:Stephen Kernan is out for the Monaghan match.

no disrespect but big deal - he's no big loss is he - he gets picked for Armagh and Ulster but he cant even make the Crossmaglen starting 15.
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Post  Guest Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:34 pm

bocerty wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:Stephen Kernan is out for the Monaghan match.

no disrespect but big deal - he's no big loss is he - he gets picked for Armagh and Ulster but he cant even make the Crossmaglen starting 15.

seems to do ok for Armagh, but if we are using him as an excuse we're *$"!*%

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Post  mid-mon man Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:17 pm

rich dublin wrote:
GAA-Fan wrote:Stephen Kernan is out for the Monaghan match.

dont know if that is a good thing or bad thing for tipster dream team??? no scores for him but then again no scores against!!!! Suspect

I seriously doubt anyone has him rich! It's Aaron you're thinking of.
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