Re: The Rugby Thread

**OMAR** Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:22 am

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Ah CFDs - viva la difference ... as they say in France ...

Or as Buffett stated - It is only when the tide goes out that you can see who has been swimming naked.
- I had a season ticket for a nudist beach

**Jayo Cluxton** Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:28 am

OMAR wrote:
Jayo Cluxton wrote:Ah CFDs - viva la difference ... as they say in France ...

Or as Buffett stated - It is only when the tide goes out that you can see who has been swimming naked.
- I had a season ticket for a nudist beach

Yeah but when the tide went out here the majority were left with the floating turds ... the naked swimmers are still afloat .. offshore.

**Loyal2TheRoyal** Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:20 pm

I find it quite extraordinary that RTE are showing four foreign teams participate in this excuse of a competition instead of showing our own indigenous stars at Leopardstown today. By all means show the games if there's nothing else on but to show them at the expense of Leopardstown's showcase meeting is bordering on treason.

I really hope France persecute the Irish Rugby team tomorrow.

**hurlingguru** Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:24 pm

There not showing the Hennessy Gold Cup yet Channel 4 are? What a joke! Who cares about England and Italy We want to see Joncol and Money Trix.

**SamiPremier08** Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:25 pm

France didn't win that game.

Ireland lost it.

Gifted them 18 points (well all of their points really) through making stupid, basic errors.

After what looked to be a great start and more than a glimpse of hope at the end, I am very, very disappointed

**redhandman** Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:15 am

i wouldnt be au fait with the finer points of rugby , i would however have loved to witness a match in thomond when munster were really going well.

irelands ill discipline and basic errors weem to let them down. i watched it on the GB national broadcaster and the commentators gave off a stink about "the irish" giving away soft penalties , esp in their own half in front of the posts. that and the fact that the french fella got a free run for the touchdown was the down fall, IMHO.

**Jayo Cluxton** Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:47 am

Extremely disappointing. For what was a big occasion the atmosphere (from an Irish fans' perspective was very muted - even when we were winning or scoring tries. Lots of loud and vocal French fans there. At €90 for a ticket (plus €10 for club) I'm afraid the English game may be my last.

Indiscipline is killing us - though I thought the ref was overly harsh at times. To score 3 tries and lose is gutting. I looked at the French v Scots and felt they were vulnerable in defence especially when you drove straight up the middle at them. Felt we could have done that more. Not sure we know what type of game we want to be playing but the amount of unforced errors are shocking in any case. Scrum did very well but Kidney's use of subs was far too conservative as usual - he introduced Leo Cullen with less than a minute left in the game! Also D'arcy has to go - I like him but he is way off form. Must be a Wexford sporting malaise going on ...

**hurlingguru** Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:57 pm

It was D'Arcy's missed tackle which let the French in to score to score their only try. O'Gara's conversion magnificent. The French were very loud considering that they were well spread out. Looking at the knock ons and the throwing at the lineouts was frustrating. The performance was encouraging but if were going to compete in the RWC we must cut out the silly mistakes.

**Jayo Cluxton** Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:21 pm

Can't agree it was encouraging. We lost a game we should have won through indiscipline and schoolboy errors. I am not encouraged that pros continue to make these errors - and in fairly ideal conditions.

**mullins** Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:23 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Extremely disappointing. For what was a big occasion the atmosphere (from an Irish fans' perspective was very muted - even when we were winning or scoring tries. Lots of loud and vocal French fans there. At €90 for a ticket (plus €10 for club) I'm afraid the English game may be my last.

Indiscipline is killing us - though I thought the ref was overly harsh at times. To score 3 tries and lose is gutting. I looked at the French v Scots and felt they were vulnerable in defence especially when you drove straight up the middle at them. Felt we could have done that more. Not sure we know what type of game we want to be playing but the amount of unforced errors are shocking in any case. Scrum did very well but Kidney's use of subs was far too conservative as usual - he introduced Leo Cullen with less than a minute left in the game! Also D'arcy has to go - I like him but he is way off form. Must be a Wexford sporting malaise going on ...

Get a job doing security at the matchs- get to watch your team and make money.... Smile

**Jayo Cluxton** Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:45 pm

I think that could be a runner alright m!

**black&white** Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:30 pm

OMAR wrote:
black&white wrote:Got given two free tickets yesterday by a partner at work!

Unfortunately, first round of warm-up competitions in Sligo is this weekend, and we're playing at 12.30, so had to pass them on....

Not exactly snowed under down here in the sticks.
Gone be with the days when I was on the key client list

Thankfully my stockbroker has a longer memory - haven't had a CFD account in 3 years but even that still seems to carry enough brownie points.
Lunch in Landsowne rugby club and an afternnon of free beer awaits - seems there is a game of croquet/hockey or some such on as well - might be worth a gander

They came from your former source of freebies as well Embarassed

Handed in the notice last week to move to one of the bigger clients of the firm. Will need to engineer a way onto the list myself.

**bocerty** Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:09 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Extremely disappointing. For what was a big occasion the atmosphere (from an Irish fans' perspective was very muted - even when we were winning or scoring tries. Lots of loud and vocal French fans there. At €90 for a ticket (plus €10 for club) I'm afraid the English game may be my last.

Indiscipline is killing us - though I thought the ref was overly harsh at times. To score 3 tries and lose is gutting. I looked at the French v Scots and felt they were vulnerable in defence especially when you drove straight up the middle at them. Felt we could have done that more. Not sure we know what type of game we want to be playing but the amount of unforced errors are shocking in any case. Scrum did very well but Kidney's use of subs was far too conservative as usual - he introduced Leo Cullen with less than a minute left in the game! Also D'arcy has to go - I like him but he is way off form. Must be a Wexford sporting malaise going on ...

Jayo there was 6 seconds left when he introduced Cullen - a reasonable thing to do if your winning and you want to take the sting out of things but when your losing i dont understand the logic. Only seen the last 20 minutes or so - so cant really comment on what went on before but to make that decision with 6 seconds left was curious to say the least

**The Puke** Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:16 pm

bocerty wrote:
Jayo Cluxton wrote:Extremely disappointing. For what was a big occasion the atmosphere (from an Irish fans' perspective was very muted - even when we were winning or scoring tries. Lots of loud and vocal French fans there. At €90 for a ticket (plus €10 for club) I'm afraid the English game may be my last.

Indiscipline is killing us - though I thought the ref was overly harsh at times. To score 3 tries and lose is gutting. I looked at the French v Scots and felt they were vulnerable in defence especially when you drove straight up the middle at them. Felt we could have done that more. Not sure we know what type of game we want to be playing but the amount of unforced errors are shocking in any case. Scrum did very well but Kidney's use of subs was far too conservative as usual - he introduced Leo Cullen with less than a minute left in the game! Also D'arcy has to go - I like him but he is way off form. Must be a Wexford sporting malaise going on ...

Jayo there was 6 seconds left when he introduced Cullen - a reasonable thing to do if your winning and you want to take the sting out of things but when your losing i dont understand the logic. Only seen the last 20 minutes or so - so cant really comment on what went on before but to make that decision with 6 seconds left was curious to say the least

Cullen was brought on in order to stop the clock and make France put into the scrum and give us one more chance or even possibly a chance at a penalty if the French collapsed, if he wasn't brought on then the clock would have passed 80 and the game would have been over...

**Jayo Cluxton** Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:08 am

No puke - the clock was stopped at that point anyway.

**The Puke** Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:17 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:No puke - the clock was stopped at that point anyway.

It was a knock on so the clock wasn't stopped....

**Jayo Cluxton** Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:02 pm

There was an injury. Culllen was standing there for 3 minutes waiting to come on but there was no break in play until that. Rolling Eyes

Happened right in front of me too ....

**The Puke** Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:53 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:There was an injury. Culllen was standing there for 3 minutes waiting to come on but there was no break in play until that.

Happened right in front of me too ....

watch the game back, injury or no injury the game clock was running and would have continued running only for the sunstitution, ref even said it "time off, substitution green 5"......he made no gesture towards any injured players

**Jayo Cluxton** Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:31 pm

................................. Shocked

Pedant ........... Rolling Eyes

**Jayo Cluxton** Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:32 pm

Another shocking performance. Discipline is appaling and has to be addressed - it also cost Munster their Heineken Cup chances. O'Callaghan has been a big culprit here and Leamy when on. He gave away 2 yesterday and was blessed not to get yellow. Heaslip and Best too gave away penos and at scrumtime the refs are pinging us constantly - mostly Healy.

Can't think of anything much D'arcy and O'Driscoll did yesterday in an attacking sense. Bowe got little or no ball. I think Fitzgerald and Earles are too lightweight and are weakening the backline. Would love to see us upset England for the Grand Slam (and don't rate them as world beaters at all) but the way we are playing it ain't gonna happen. Maybe the team needs to go back to Enfield ....

**Thomas Clarke** Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:50 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Another shocking performance.....

Seriously? Shocked

Id've thought it to be expected at this stage Jayo.

**Jayo Cluxton** Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:14 pm

Ah there's better in this team but there is something clearly wrong. I think some egos have landed ...

**Thomas Clarke** Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:02 pm

Not sure that that is the problem Jayo. For all the changes in rugby over the last decade, one thing has remained constant: You don't win anything unless you have a good front 5.

Ireland have some quite good players in the backs & back row (some old, slow ones as well, it must be said), but the big weakness is up front. They are lucky that the Northen Hemisphere is very weak at present, as evidenced by Italy posting good results against everyone bar England. England themselves, while not the finished article, are the only ones who look to be improving as the World Cup approaches.

**Jayo Cluxton** Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:23 pm

I think our front 5 are improving all the time. I think there are one or two loud mouthed guys there - who should let their play do the talking.

**bocerty** Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:30 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Ah there's better in this team but there is something clearly wrong. I think some egos have landed ...

would you not lay some of the blame with Mr Kidney Jayo - his use of the bench this year has been questionable. When Ireland had the upper hand and going for the jugular on Sunday he brought on 3 subs all at once - to me that sent out the signal he thought the game was won and was just handing out game time to a few lads - had we waited another 10 minutes to this or at least staggered the substitutions i dont think we would have been hanging on so desperately for the last 10-15 minutes.

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