Hogan Cup final - St. Colman's supporters

Brilliant that mate. I'm one of the few that put in an argument on behalf of the St Coleman's supporters (and I don't recall aiming the "anti-Ulster" comment directly at you) and now you're going off on one at me. Nice.

SamiPremier08 wrote:Brilliant that mate. I'm one of the few that put in an argument on behalf of the St Coleman's supporters (and I don't recall aiming the "anti-Ulster" comment directly at you) and now you're going off on one at me. Nice.

Sami mate, Ill intermediate here! If you take back the silly comment, we'll let you become an honorary member of the Blue Army!! Friends?

Awk Sami you're not gona cry on us are ya?

Personally I'm very protective of my username, like it may not be at the same high standard as yours, but someday I'll get there ;-)

hogan2010 wrote:

SamiPremier08 wrote:Brilliant that mate. I'm one of the few that put in an argument on behalf of the St Coleman's supporters (and I don't recall aiming the "anti-Ulster" comment directly at you) and now you're going off on one at me. Nice.

Sami mate, Ill intermediate here! If you take back the silly comment, we'll let you become an honorary member of the Blue Army!! Friends?

ahh we'll have to see, by doing that I may become GAAtipster.ie public enemy no.1

and bluearmy1 still appears to be going on...something about me insulting his username? can't remember doing that, I might have mentioned it does sound a little odd going on with the blue army this, blue army that ranting - in fact it's probably that title that's making people think of you as hooligans! (which I don't)

but that's merely my humble opinion.

Mods, I would propose locking this thread, as the addition of some unwelcome comments from some of the Colman's supporters have dragged this topic to a real low point. The actions of the Colman's fans are not being discussed, only petty insults are being passed from the Down members.

Stay on topic. Sami is giving an opinion no need to bring usernames into this discussion, we all know I have the best one on here

i agree esther

EstherMayo1951 wrote:Mods, I would propose locking this thread, as the addition of some unwelcome comments from some of the Colman's supporters have dragged this topic to a real low point. The actions of the Colman's fans are not being discussed, only petty insults are being passed from the Down members.

For once I agree with you EstherMayo! Lock this down and lets build a bridge and get over it! Sorry if they spoilt your day Mayo but the Colmans support thoroughly enjoyed our trip to Croker and though you wouldnt agree I thought 99% of them were an absolute credit! Ill also point out that theres a bit of banter here, light hearted in the extreme and its not just Down men at it. All the best in the future! Please God St Colmans dont have to wait another 19 years to get back to the Hogan final but if we're lucky enough to return, I look forward to a repeat of this discussion!

Oh, and with Down and Armagh in the NFL Division 2 final, its quite likely to be at Headquarters too! With the Colmans support on Saturday being from Down and Armagh, maybe you should just hit the golf course that day instead of going to watch!!

hogan2010 wrote:

EstherMayo1951 wrote:Mods, I would propose locking this thread, as the addition of some unwelcome comments from some of the Colman's supporters have dragged this topic to a real low point. The actions of the Colman's fans are not being discussed, only petty insults are being passed from the Down members.

For once I agree with you EstherMayo! Lock this down and lets build a bridge and get over it! Sorry if they spoilt your day Mayo but the Colmans support thoroughly enjoyed our trip to Croker and though you wouldnt agree I thought 99% of them were an absolute credit! Ill also point out that theres a bit of banter here, light hearted in the extreme and its not just Down men at it. All the best in the future! Please God St Colmans dont have to wait another 19 years to get back to the Hogan final but if we're lucky enough to return, I look forward to a repeat of this discussion!

Oh, and with Down and Armagh in the NFL Division 2 final, its quite likely to be at Headquarters too! With the Colmans support on Saturday being from Down and Armagh, maybe you should just hit the golf course that day instead of going to watch!!

thanks for that. very enlightening.

Lads, the slagging and scoffing is a bit of craic. I hope I haven't insulted anyone. I've been reading comments about my friends and fellow College students and former students being called hooligans (a pretty extreme label). When you have such a large crowd of teenagers (immature kids my friends) it's not gona be a Sunday morning mass. Accuse them of misbehaviour if you want, accuse them of being rude and crass (which some of them certainly were) but it's ridiculous to label them as hooligans. It was a great occasion and a famous day for Violet Hill. And a day that will not be overshadowed by exaggerated accusations...

And no I reckon we should drag this thread out, it's providing a bit of entertainment for me here, stuck in bed with a dodgy stomach after the ancient tradition of 'a rip' last night.

Abbey for McLarnon!

bluearmy1 wrote:Lads, the slagging and scoffing is a bit of craic. I hope I haven't insulted anyone. I've been reading comments about my friends and fellow College students and former students being called hooligans (a pretty extreme label). When you have such a large crowd of teenagers (immature kids my friends) it's not gona be a Sunday morning mass. Accuse them of misbehaviour if you want, accuse them of being rude and crass (which some of them certainly were) but it's ridiculous to label them as hooligans. It was a great occasion and a famous day for Violet Hill. And a day that will not be overshadowed by exaggerated accusations...

And no I reckon we should drag this thread out, it's providing a bit of entertainment for me here, stuck in bed with a dodgy stomach after the ancient tradition of 'a rip' last night.

Abbey for McLarnon!

did you actually read my initial post or what?

SamiPremier I don't direct everything I say solely at you. Just wasn't happy that my username got death.....I have enough problems like trying to make it to class out of the Holylands (if you want to see hooliganism, that's the place to go lol) without my harmless username taking a beatin. And as for the title Blue Army, no-one knows where the name originates from, but once you pass a small initiation ceremony you simply become a member of this ancient and noble brotherhood.

The serious parts of my comments were aimed squarely at the Mayo man.

bluearmy1 wrote:SamiPremier I don't direct everything I say solely at you. Just wasn't happy that my username got death.....I have enough problems like trying to make it to class out of the Holylands (if you want to see hooliganism, that's the place to go lol) without my harmless username taking a beatin. And as for the title Blue Army, no-one knows where the name originates from, but once you pass a small initiation ceremony you simply become a member of this ancient and noble brotherhood.

The serious parts of my comments were aimed squarely at the Mayo man.

rightyho. Up the blue army and all that then.

and the Mayo man you speak of is infact a woman

SamiPremier08 wrote:

bluearmy1 wrote:SamiPremier I don't direct everything I say solely at you. Just wasn't happy that my username got death.....I have enough problems like trying to make it to class out of the Holylands (if you want to see hooliganism, that's the place to go lol) without my harmless username taking a beatin. And as for the title Blue Army, no-one knows where the name originates from, but once you pass a small initiation ceremony you simply become a member of this ancient and noble brotherhood.

The serious parts of my comments were aimed squarely at the Mayo man.

rightyho. Up the blue army and all that then.

and the Mayo man you speak of is infact a woman

"The Blue Army are a set of Gaelic Football supporters from Newry, Co Down who attend or have attended St Colmans College and have been around for decades although the name 'Blue Army' itself is quite a new development. Although initially known as Blue Army in the Stands, or BAITS, it was eventually shortened to Blue Army and gets chanted at each game. It consists of a number of current and past pupils. Once a member of the Blue Army, you retain your membership for life and retain your connection with the school forever offering you to opportunity to catch up with all your old mates over a sociable pint annualy." (Source Wikipedia)

This thread is a joke....There is only 1 Blue Army............IMPOSTERS

hogan2010 wrote:

SamiPremier08 wrote:

bluearmy1 wrote:SamiPremier I don't direct everything I say solely at you. Just wasn't happy that my username got death.....I have enough problems like trying to make it to class out of the Holylands (if you want to see hooliganism, that's the place to go lol) without my harmless username taking a beatin. And as for the title Blue Army, no-one knows where the name originates from, but once you pass a small initiation ceremony you simply become a member of this ancient and noble brotherhood.

The serious parts of my comments were aimed squarely at the Mayo man.

rightyho. Up the blue army and all that then.

and the Mayo man you speak of is infact a woman

"The Blue Army are a set of Gaelic Football supporters from Newry, Co Down who attend or have attended St Colmans College and have been around for decades although the name 'Blue Army' itself is quite a new development. Although initially known as Blue Army in the Stands, or BAITS, it was eventually shortened to Blue Army and gets chanted at each game. It consists of a number of current and past pupils. Once a member of the Blue Army, you retain your membership for life and retain your connection with the school forever offering you to opportunity to catch up with all your old mates over a sociable pint annualy." (Source Wikipedia)

wikipedia is all made up

I think my blinkered view is a result of this:

God I hope we didn't sound like that!!

"BLUE ARMM-YYY!"

Esther - I don't think you were at the game so I'd leave too much of the self righteousness to those that were at least there. Welcome to the Down brigade - there is no Ulster bias here - over 60% of our posters are Ulster people I reckon - and in addition the rest of us shop in Newry!

Lets concentrate on the pitch happenings where there is no doubt that Colman's were worthy winners. If there was wrongdoing I am sure the school can and will deal with it. I was at many a schools match myself where high spirits, messing and maybe a touch of the demon made some do things they wouldn't normally.

Now we have all these Mourne men how about telling us what your prospects are for Ulster/Sam on a brand new thread! And also - is Marty going back to Oz??

We're making our way towards the Hill next year mullins ;-)

bluearmy1 wrote:We're making our way towards the Hill next year mullins ;-)

The whole of ulster wouldn't take the hill

It won't take a genius to work out where my loyalties lie, but I'm going to be as impartial as I possibly can strive to be.

Having spent the last twelve years cast away into the Colleges Football attic, St Colmans have at last emerged, with this years team playing a scintilating, slick attacking brand of football that players such as Kevin Mussen, Greg Blaney and James McCartan would be proud of. They possess one of the most exciting talents in the game in young Caolan Mooney, and its just a pity that he was shackled yesterday and couldn't display his amazing array of skills for a nationwide audience. More important, is the spirit that has been rekindled in the St Colman's camp this year. Notice i use the term "camp". I do so for a reason.

I don't want this to turn into a life story, but what I have experienced may go some way to explaining yesterdays events to some degree, not condoning the behaviour, but relaying some truths for those who find it difficult to understand to, perhaps a larger degree, understand.

I attended St Colman's from 2000-2007. We played a grand total of 10 Mac Rory Cup games in that time, three of which I played in myself. Now, the point I want to make concerns the supporting of the teams throughout that period. By 2005, the support attending these games had dwindled to all but a handful, with the school doing little to promote football to a wider non-playing "supporter" body within the school. So in 2006, a portion of the student body decided to take matters into their own hands and organise supporters buses to these games. The Blue Army, and this is for you Sam, was born. Since then, St Colman's Mac Rory teams have enjoyed unrivalled support in each Mac Rory campaign, providing a carnival atmosphere of noise and colour throughout Ulster. It's no surprise that since the formation of the Blue Army, our fortunes on the field have had an upturn, culminating in at last becoming All-Ireland champions again this year.
Now with regard to yesterday, I'm not going to spew any anti-Ulster criticism to those who have spoke out against us. I did not attend yesterdays game, the first I've missed since leaving the school, so perhaps I cannot truly give an authentic account of what went on. But I have heard the reports. I'll deal with what I feel are the contraversial aspects singularly.

1. Chanting - Chanting or singing songs is not a new concept within the GAA. It happens up and down the country at inter-county games week in week out. Today I watched the Dublin fans sing "Come on you Boys in Blue" in Healy Park. I do not condone any chanting thats contains offensive language. Having been an avid St Colman's fan for as long as I remember, and having been part of these carnival Blue Army days, Im 100% aware of the type of chanting that goes on. Almost every chant we use is tongue-in-cheek as Mr Galvin probably learnt to his unamusement yesterday. OK, it may have went a bit far, but as people have rightly stated before me, the man's been involved in cases that have brought far more disrepute to the GAA than a couple of piss taking songs sang by a group of young lads.
   
2. Flares - Flares were only introduced to the Blue Army days on Mac Rory Final day. I'm a firm believer that they epitomise the colourfest that should be a sporting event. I remember attending the Republic's soccer friendly with Poland at CP and the Poles that night were amazing with their flares and their chanting. These flares possess minimal risks to those handling them or to patrons in the surrounding area. All power to those who start brining flares to GAA matches if you ask me. The incident with the flare being thrown on the field, I'm led to believe, happened out of the intention of one of the players to hold the flare during their celebrations.
   
3. Patrons being allowed on the field - Why should CP be any different to any GAA ground in the land in allowing patrons on to the field of ply at the end of the game to congratulate and celebrate with the victors. Especially on the emotionally charged days such as Colleges Final day. Casement Park had no problem with it on March 17th. The heavy handed Gardaí disgraced themselves yesterday in the handling of the situation, where once again they show their blatant disregard for common sense.
   

Unfortunately this whole scenario of over highlighted, over exaggertion of what occured after the whistle yesterday, has left me feeling that the spirit of St Colman's which I talked about has been misrepresented as something negative and threatening were in fact the opposite is more accurate. To term yesterdays over excitement as hooliganism is pathetic and more immature and detremental than the actions of a few young lads that were euphoric, revelling in the success of their team. It is what it is, three lads, who yes had drink on board, trying to get on the field. Now tell me, were arrests necessary? Was all this mouthing off about the hooliganism of the Blue Army necessary because 3 lads were arrested by a much vilified police force, renowned for their mind-boggling tactics when it comes to upholding the law of the land? Or is it perhaps that all this crap could have been avoided if all the people who thought it necessary to deal with it, either by heavy handed force yesterday or by highlighting it all over the place today, could have acted with common sense and let it go? Immaturity? Yes there was much of it on display, much more from the illuminous yellow than the victorious blue and white.

he's got a point ^^^

I'm a great lad altogether

BlueArmy2010 wrote:I'm a great lad altogether

I saw ye lighting flares yesterday ..... ....