Playing football in one county, Hurling in another

Longford minor may take DRA route


11 February 2010

A rising star of Longford football
is considering appealing to the DRA after he was told he cannot play
club hurling in neighbouring Westmeath.

Conor Keegan was on the
Castletown-Geoghegan team which won last year's Westmeath MHC, but the
Westmeath county board were subsequently asked to investigate the
matter and it led to the club facing sanction. This year, Castletown
formally applied to have the talented dual player, who lives just over
the county boundary in Forgney, included in their club and there was a
supporting letter from Longford chairman Seamus Quinn.

Speaking
at a recent Westmeath county board meeting, secretary Pat Lynagh said
the matter had been referred to the GAA director-general Paraic Duffy.
According to correspondence received by Westmeath officials, there are
no circumstances whereby a play can play football in one county and
hurling in another.

Westmeath chairman Tom Farrell explained
that the matter would have to be pursued to the DRA (Disputes
Resolution Authority) in order for the rule to be changed. "It can be
appealed," he said.

Castletown-Geoghegan is the nearest hurling
club to Keegan who lives in a county where there are just three hurling
clubs - Longford Slashers, Wolfe Tones and Clonguish.

Has anyone ever heard of a situation like this before? Should it be allowed?

I don't see much harm in allowing the player play for a club outside their own county for one sport and not the other. It could possibly even help the Longford hurling team if a player is developing in a better standard of competition (rarely can that be said about Westmeath hurling )

wahts the big deal here - some ruels are just plain silly !

Football should take precedent over hurling every time. If there is a conflict football should win out.

KerryKatriona wrote:Football should take precedent over hurling every time. If there is a conflict football should win out.

Obviously an attempt at a wind up, pity you didn't read the original post!

bald eagle wrote:

KerryKatriona wrote:Football should take precedent over hurling every time. If there is a conflict football should win out.

Obviously an attempt at a wind up, pity you didn't read the original post!

I did. The guy should play football in Longford full stop.

KerryKatriona wrote:Football should take precedent over hurling every time. If there is a conflict football should win out.

Fail

Vinny played football for the Dubs and hurling for The Kingdom allowed

KerryKatriona wrote:Football should take precedent over hurling every time. If there is a conflict football should win out.

Rule that effect this lad is as follows
6.7 Playing Restrictions (Club)
(A) A Player may not play in any Championship with two Clubs in a given year’s Championship, either within a County or in different Counties save as provided in Exceptions below and in Rule 6.13.
(B) A Player may not play with two Clubs in the exact same Competition of a given year.
Exceptions:
(1) A Player of a separately affiliated Hurling Club may play football with a separately affiliated Football Club, and vice versa, within a County, subject to any restrictions provided in County
This is where his plea could fall
Bye-Laws.
A County Committee may make alternative arrangements in the interests of the promotion
of Hurling/Football, provided that the arrangements have been approved by Central Council.
THIS IS WHERE HIS PLEA MIGHT SUCCEED
(2) A player of a Club without a Minor/Under 21 team, subject to County Bye-Laws, may play with an Independent Minor/Under 21 team, within the County which shall not bear the
name of an adult Club within that County.
(3) Subject to the Higher Education Council’s Rules of Eligibility, a Student of a Higher
Education College, pursuing a fulltime Undergraduate or Postgraduate Course,
may from the Championship Year after his enrolment in the College up to and inclusive of
the Championship Year of his Graduation-
(i) Play with his College Club and with his Own Club, provided he obtains a Permit
from the Provincial or Central Council, as appropriate.
(ii) Play with his College Club and his Own Club, where the latter is in the same
County and of a lower grade, and he obtains a permit.
(iii) Play with his College Club in adult competitions and with his Own Club in Under 21 and Minor competitions, where the latter Club is of Senior status within the same County as the College Club, provided that the player obtains a transfer to the College Club from the County Committee.
(iv) Play with a College Club and with a club in Britain, provided he does not play with
his Own Club, and obtains an Inter-County transfer from the County Committee of his
Own Club.
N otes: (a) A “College Club” for the purpose of this Rule shall mean a Club Affiliated to, and under the jurisdiction of a County Committee
(A “College Club” shall otherwise mean a Club Affiliated to, and under the jurisdiction of the
Higher Education Council).
(b) A Student may avail of this Rule to play for only one College in any Championship Year.
(4) A player who is pursuing a full-time course of study in a European Union country (outside
of Ireland and Britain) may play with a Club in the European Union country of study, or the
nearest club to his place of study, including a College Club if one exists, and with his
Own Club, provided he is participating in a recognised programme of study of a minimum
of 24 weeks duration, and he obtains a Permit from the Central Council.
(5) A player who has received an Authorisation under Rule 6.13 (a) or a Sanction under Rule
6.13 (b).
(6) A Player who Transfers to another Club within a County and who has already played
in a Championship in that given year with his former Club, may play with his new Club in
Non-Championship Competition(s), provided that he has not played with his former Club in
the exact same Competition(s)
(7) A Player who Transfers to another Club in a different County, and has already played in
a Championship in that given year with his former Club, may play with his new Club in
Non-Championship Competition(s).
( A Player who Transfers to another Club or who Declares for his Home Club and who
has already played for his former Club in a particular Competition, may finish that
Competition and play for his new Club or Home Club, subject to provisions of Sections
(6) and (7) above.
(C) A player may play with another Club in a non-trophy game, provided he obtains the
permission of the County Committee or higher authority.
Penalties:
Player - Within a County - 12 weeks Suspension;
In two different Counties - 48 weeks suspension.
Year suspension is possible
Team - On a proven Objection - Award of Game to the Opposing Team.
On an Inquiry by the Committee-in-Charge- Forfeiture of Game without Award of Game
to the Opposing Team, or Fine, depending on the circumstances.
Club Chairperson and Secretary –
Within County - 12 weeks Suspension;
Playing of a Player who has played in a Championship in another County in the same
Championship Year - 48 weeks Suspension.

so as you can see for the rule it can be adapted to suit this lad of suspend him for the year

Hi,
I'd be interested to know what happened with this ruling?

My club is in a similar situation in that there is a guy living in the parish wishing to play football with us but he also wants to play a higher standard of hurling back in his home county were he drives to for games and trains with us during the week.

He was refused a transfer to play football in his current parish where he is married, etc with children.

Crazy rule especially with all the emigration in clubs nowadays we need players especially since they are living in the actual village they hope to play for!!

Any update on how this panned out let me know.

Cheers,
Marty

Aye its a joke like, pearses a club down the road from ourselves have a adult football team with several hurlers and they are told they are not allowed to play hurling for another club unless that club is hurling only, im sure the gaa need to wake up on this, better to have boys playing the games than not playing.