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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal on Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:15 pm

Givney has achieved more in a Cavan jersey than Brady or McKiernan at senior level. You forgot to mention that Givney is probably the strongest character in this team, probably the real leader even though he isn't captain. McKiernan is a huge loss though. It's a real shame he did his cruciate injury.

Looking ahead to Saturday, I don't think Cavan have anything to fear. They have shown the most improvement of any team between 2012 and 2013 and the momentum gained from two successive wins shouldn't be underestimated.

The forwards, Mackey, Keating, Dunne, Reilly have a real fizz about them and are willing to try anything. They haven't exactly been shy about taking on the tough shots. Nobody in that forward line will refuse a scoring chance. That's a good thing - a weakness in weaker teams is hesitating in front of goal. Especially in Ulster games when you don't get sight of the posts for long.

But the important thing is the work ethic. It never let up in either game. Terry will surely have them as well prepared for this game as the past two. Some minor improvement required when they have the ball though, it's important to give the pass at the right time and to make sure and find the intended target.

I would fancy Cavan to edge it. And put it up to Donegal in the final.
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Post  Jonsmith on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:17 pm

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:Givney has achieved more in a Cavan jersey than Brady or McKiernan at senior level. You forgot to mention that Givney is probably the strongest character in this team, probably the real leader even though he isn't captain. McKiernan is a huge loss though. It's a real shame he did his cruciate injury.


Care to explain this bit? In fact you can explain all of it if you like, when the going got tough in the last 2 games it wasn't Givney that turned things around for us. I'm probably sounding harsh on him, don't get me wrong I think he has amazing ability and he's still very young.

No matter how Paddy sees this I'd have Monaghan relatively strong favourites. We have progressed and Hyland's touch is evident. Hard work, settling quickly into games and really digging in when the opposition starts to gather real momentum. But there are glaring weaknesses in the side, the losses of Corr, McKiernan and now McEnroe has left midfield decimated. We don't have a half decent free taker and we've hardly been shooting the lights out up front.

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Post  Boxtyeater on Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:54 pm

Best wishes to our neighbours Cavan this evening. Is feidir libh....
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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal on Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:41 pm

I am disappointed for Cavan. I thought they were as good as Monaghan but naivety and inexperience certainly didn't help. Maybe a few players saw the morning newspapers before they saw the man in the better position, I don't know, but some sloppy passing and some glory hunting.

Monaghan aren't a bad side. I knew it'd take a good one to beat Cavan. I hope Cavan get a favourable draw on Monday morning.
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Post  OMAR on Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:50 pm

Ive commented before about cavan forwards past, present and relocated who seem to have a habit of trying hail Marys with the objective of being able to get a fist pump snarling photo shot when 1 in 5 goes over.
Keating with two attempts today from outside 50 at the death when the game was in the balance.
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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal on Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:03 pm

Two other comments I would make in relation to the game:

1 - Marty Duffy is not related to a referee, let alone one himself.

2 - The director must have been out in the pubs with the fans. How many passages of play did we miss while we were watching replays, supporters in the crowd and the managers? Then showed a replay of a controversial point yet we seen neither ball nor post in the camera shot. Back to studio and analysts talking about the goal while we watched pictures of a completely unrelated moment in the game. Also thought some of the close-ups were amateur enough yet at other times, I'd say the camera man was zoomed out to the max because I couldn't see what was going on.
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Post  Jonsmith on Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:02 pm

The goalkeeper fouled the ball at the end, should have been a free to tie it up.

That said, we were in that position due to our own frailties. I agree with Omar about Keating. He gets maybe one of those per game but kicks far too many wides, he was marked very well though. Dunne was equally as bad and should have been off far earlier. The difference was that they had McManus who we gave too much space to.

Best Ulster Championship we've had in 12 years, we're back to being competitive and not just a turn up and beat them out the gate team. There's more to come.

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Post  emmetryan on Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:06 am

Hi guys,

Analysis on Monaghan's win over Cavan finally up. My sincerest apologies for the delay.
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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal on Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:11 am

Jonsmith wrote:
Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:Givney has achieved more in a Cavan jersey than Brady or McKiernan at senior level. You forgot to mention that Givney is probably the strongest character in this team, probably the real leader even though he isn't captain. McKiernan is a huge loss though. It's a real shame he did his cruciate injury.


Care to explain this bit? In fact you can explain all of it if you like, when the going got tough in the last 2 games it wasn't Givney that turned things around for us. I'm probably sounding harsh on him, don't get me wrong I think he has amazing ability and he's still very young.


Jack Brady is in his first full season as a Cavan senior. And he's been injured for all of the championship games so far. There is no way you can claim he's achieved more at senior level than Givney. But I do agree - a fabulous footballer with lots potential and still only 21. You have a soft spot for him, that's obvious in your posts here and elsewhere.

McKiernan took longer to break into the senior set-up than Givney - only really making the breakthrough in 2011. Givney has been involved since 2008 when Carr was in charge. Even on those dark days when Cavan exited the ulster championship at the hands of teams like Antrim and Fermanagh, it was Givney who gave supporters hope for the future. His performances at midfield for Cavan led Joe Kernan to compare him to the legendary Dara O'Se and Paul McGrane.

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Post  Jonsmith on Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:20 pm

Didn't make the game yesterday but a solid performance from Cavan according to those at it. Quigley decided at half time that he was going to do a job on Mackey (as he did in Brewster) to curb his influence and thankfully saw the line for it.

Hard to know what to say about Forde. He was never this bad while he was with the U21s. Great to see such passion (something previous management teams were sorely lacking) but there's a way to channel that and getting involved with opposition players is not on at all. That said, it doesn't seem to affect the players who show more of Hyland's mentality and kept the heads yesterday in the face of a lot of provocation from the Fermanagh players.

Delighted to hear that Givney lorded things in the midfield yesterday. And solid consistent performances from plenty of other lads, great to see. Cavan have played with almost the same team in 4 consecutive games. Completely unheard of for us! Usually a loss is followed by a huge shake up and re inventing the wheel.

We are certainly in bonus territory now and a favourable draw could even give us a chance of getting through to the final round of the qualifiers. The one team I don't want to be picked against is Armagh. Anybody else but Armagh...

Great year so far, serious credit goes to Terry Hyland. We're no world beaters and we're a long way off being a real contender for an Ulster title or a Croker appearance but look at where we were 2 years ago.. At home in Breffni as Longford tore us to shreds, our captain fantastic standing in the corner with his hands on his hips shaking his head, dressing room arguments after the game. We were one of the bottom 5 teams in the country at that stage. In Hyland's first year in charge he has got a solid base of players, got them all singing off the same Hymn sheet and made them difficult to beat. Progress might be slow and yes we haven't faced any top Division 2 sides but for me that is massive progress in one year.
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Post  OMAR on Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:31 pm

Congrats to Cavan
Have to admit I was somewhat sceptical of the progress. I thought they caught Armagh on the hop and 2 wins versus Fermanagh not exactly a quantum leap, but tonight's win complete with an impressive tally against back door specialists and Division two champs Derry is certainly huge progress.
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Post  GAA-Fan on Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:03 pm

Congratulations to Cavan an excellent results and a place in the last 12 and a game against London/Mayo
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Post  bald eagle on Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:24 pm

Baxtards! But well done all the same, reports i'm hearing is we were fortunate to get ET never mind almost steal it at the death! 1 point is ET is never gonna even give you a chance so all in al a fully deserved victory for Cavan as they now prepare for an All Ireland QF with a bye in the next round! ;-)

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Post  bald eagle on Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:26 pm

I hate the term 'Back Door Specialists'!

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Post  Thomas Clarke on Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:28 pm

A great result for Cavan, and they will now relish the chance to make it to Croke Park for the first time since 1997 (I think!).

Sounds like it was a great game, and they obviously showed a lot of heart and fitness to get through a game like that away from home. Cavan have now beaten two division 2 sides, and it is a real shame that they won't be in that division themselves next year, as their young lads are clearly ready for the step up in class. Still, they'll not be thinking of that tonight - well done Jonsmith and Cavan!
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Post  Jonsmith on Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:17 pm

Savage win lads thanks for the good wishes. Once again work commitments prevented me from attending. (They can take a running jump if they think I'll be missing any more games) I wasn't confident going into the game and was less confident when McLoughlin and McDermott were ruled out. We didn't have a great start but put the foot down once Derry went 3 ahead and kept our noses in front until right at the death. When I heard Derry got the free at the end I was sure that was it but to get the ball up the field and for Damien to pop over the equaliser showed serious spirit.

The commentators noted about the period before ET started that Cavan stayed on the field, went into the shade and stretched and limbered up. Derry went back into what must have been a stifling dressing room and waited a long time before returning to the field. Could that have had an impact? The first few minutes of extra time won Cavan the game when they scored 3 unanswered points.

The most impressive thing about Cavan's victory and getting to extra time especially is that they played the last 10 minutes of the game in normal time without Captain Alan Clarke, Givney, Martin Dunne and Cian Mackey. McVeety and Argue (with one and two years left at U21 respectively) both got vital scores from us, I never dreamed that either of them would see Championship football.

We will probably be playing London next unless we see the mother of all shocks tomorrow. I sincerely hope they put it up to Mayo, if nothing else it would put to bed any complacency that may creep into the Cavan Camp. We have improved but not so much that we can take any game for granted. Already a tweet from Killian Clarke mentioning an AIQF, Derry took us for granted we don't want to make the same mistake.

Heady days indeed and a trip to Croker would be special, we could well be the surprise package of this years Championship. Hard luck to Derry, Brolly even gave us some backhanded compliments on twitter. This day 16 years ago we beat Derry in the Ulster Final!!

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Post  Boxtyeater on Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:55 pm

Jonsmith wrote:The commentators noted about the period before ET started that Cavan stayed on the field, went into the shade and stretched and limbered up. Derry went back into what must have been a stifling dressing room and waited a long time before returning to the field. Could that have had an impact?  

A hugely valid point JS and well done BTW. There won't be a cow milked in Corlough for a week....

I fully concur with this sentiment, keep the lads mobile, on their feet, tipping about.

I remember the day of the 1966 WC Final, The Huns retreated to the dressing room, while Ramsay kept the Brits on the pitch, strolling around among them, offering encouragement and such. Nobby Stiles had a small lie-down for a rub on his calf and Sir Alf fooked him up and made him jog.

Arise Sir Terence....The "Rocks of Bawn" will be heaving tonight....
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Post  Gaa_lover on Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:04 am

Great win in Derry and impressive scoring total. London to come who you want in Croker? Kerry again like 1997??

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Post  Boxtyeater on Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:08 am

Especially for Jonsmith....The bould Declan Nerney....

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Post  Jonsmith on Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:23 am

Gaa_lover wrote:Great win in Derry and impressive scoring total. London to come who you want in Croker? Kerry again like 1997??

Definitely Kerry. Donegal after that. Dublin would be a nightmare. All assuming we get that far, definitely.

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Post  Gaa_lover on Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:54 am

Jonsmith wrote:
Gaa_lover wrote:Great win in Derry and impressive scoring total. London to come who you want in Croker? Kerry again like 1997??

Definitely Kerry. Donegal after that. Dublin would be a nightmare. All assuming we get that far, definitely.
Don't tempt faith but you should beat London who have six day turnaround after expected heavy defeat.

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Post  Boxtyeater on Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:58 am

Gaa_lover wrote:Great win in Derry and impressive scoring total. London to come who you want in Croker? Kerry again like 1997??

Tasteless....

As Micko might say "I can assure you, London won't fear Cavan" and rightly so...

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Post  Jonsmith on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:05 pm

I assume the Tyrone and Meath contingent will be coming to Croker early to cheer on their fellow Ulstermen/Neighbours?

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Post  Thomas Clarke on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:09 pm

Jonsmith wrote:I assume the Tyrone and Meath contingent will be coming to Croker early to cheer on their fellow Ulstermen/Neighbours?

Not at all.  A large part of my life has been lived in London(ish), so I'll be cheering on my 2 counties against the Breffni/Royal men.  Just hope Tyrone don't draw London in a semi final, as I'd be torn apart with divided loyalties...
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Post  Jonsmith on Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:28 pm

Thomas Clarke wrote:
Jonsmith wrote:I assume the Tyrone and Meath contingent will be coming to Croker early to cheer on their fellow Ulstermen/Neighbours?

Not at all.  A large part of my life has been lived in London(ish), so I'll be cheering on my 2 counties against the Breffni/Royal men.  Just hope Tyrone don't draw London in a semi final, as I'd be torn apart with divided loyalties...

What's the view on the match TC? I'm very cautious about being too optimistic. I've been to Croker 5 times in the to see different Cavan sides play and the best I've seen is a draw!.. If you can't get past London on a huge day in Croker to get into an AIQF, you don't deserve to be in an AIQF.

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