Dublin 08/09

Just wondering what posters on here think caused the Dublin collapse in both years.Genuine replys please

mullins wrote:Just wondering what posters on here think caused the Dublin collapse in both years.Genuine replys please

1.Too slow on the line to identify the causes of their problems.

2.Too many individualistic types who concentrated on themselves rather than a team effort.
3.Not enough quality in depth.
4.Lack of a proven free taker with a 50m range.

I'm leaving the half back line to Bocerty whose an expert in this part of the pitch...

1.Too slow on the line to identify the causes of their problems...This year hard to blame giller game was over so quick

2.Too many individualistic types who concentrated on themselves rather than a team effort.....Might agree here
3.Not enough quality in depth....
4.Lack of a proven free taker with a 50m range.....Frees didn't cause us either match..

I'm leaving the half back line to Bocerty whose an expert in this part of the pitch....No center half back nothing wrong with our wing backs

mullins wrote:Just wondering what posters on here think caused the Dublin collapse in both years.Genuine replys please

To be brutally honest, a lack of good players. Granted Dublin have about 5 or so, but they need more. Plus they need better squad players. Gilroy needs to be finding lads that can be potential All-Stars, not losing them (Shane Ryan) or not playing the likes of Whelan.

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mullins wrote:Just wondering what posters on here think caused the Dublin collapse in both years.Genuine replys please

To be brutally honest, a lack of good players. Granted Dublin have about 5 or so, but they need more. Plus they need better squad players. Gilroy needs to be finding lads that can be potential All-Stars, not losing them (Shane Ryan) or not playing the likes of Whelan.

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]3inarow that fine to say maybe your right..but in 07 you were lucky to get over the line against us have we gone back so far since.

Boxtyeater wrote:

mullins wrote:Just wondering what posters on here think caused the Dublin collapse in both years.Genuine replys please

1.Too slow on the line to identify the causes of their problems.

2.Too many individualistic types who concentrated on themselves rather than a team effort.
3.Not enough quality in depth.
4.Lack of a proven free taker with a 50m range.

I'm leaving the half back line to Bocerty whose an expert in this part of the pitch...

No.2. In my opinion, the main reason regarding Dublin's collapse in their games.

As well as that, I think maybe too much is expected of them. They have a huge fan base and they all expect an All-Ireland every year-that's a lot of pressure for a team to shoulder. They look to Sam as the goal and seem to not take seriously the steps needed to get there. I think that could be a reason too.

[quote="mullins"]1.Too slow on the line to identify the causes of their problems...This year hard to blame giller game was over so quick And he just stood there like a goat looking at thunder and rubbing his chin.

2.Too many individualistic types who concentrated on themselves rather than a team effort.....Might agree here Good
3.Not enough quality in depth....That's a penalty kick..
4.Lack of a proven free taker with a 50m range.....Frees didn't cause us either match..Agreed, but when you managed to get one nobody took the responsibility of puttin it down and putting it over/wide.Surely the first thing you learn as a child is to kick the ball off the ground.

I'm leaving the half back line to Bocerty whose an expert in this part of the pitch....No center half back nothing wrong with our wing backs Adequate at best, average in possession but poor defenders...destroyed last year..[/quote]

Unfortunately for Dublin, I think so. 2010 will be a tough year for ye in my opinion. If ye win Leinster ye'll be doing well, whereas the last few years has been a cake-walk. Losing in Leinster may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for ye. Also, and I know this isn't Dublin's fault, but ye might be better off travelling around the country. Ye're first game away to Wexford has been fixed for Croker hasn't it? More than likely ye'll win handy there (sorry Jim!) but ye'd be better getting a tough game down in Wexford where ye might scrape through by a point or two.

Oh and welcome Mullins! You can keep JayoCluxton company! You might be able to take him in from the cold and offer him a bed for the night!

not having a dig but they just came up against much better teams in Tyrone and Kerry. Granted i dont think either team where that much superior as to what the scoreline suggested. I think when the dubs were five or six down then their heads dropped and they pretty much gave up.

The dubs were favourites for both games, i predicted tyrone and kerry for the two games. Ithought the margins would have been more like 4 or 5 points.

samin10 wrote:not having a dig but they just came up against much better teams in Tyrone and Kerry. Granted i dont think either team where that much superior as to what the scoreline suggested. I think when the dubs were five or six down then their heads dropped and they pretty much gave up.

The dubs were favourites for both games, i predicted tyrone and kerry for the two games. Ithought the margins would have been more like 14 or 5 points.

Fixed that for you Samin..

Tyrone and Kerry both set out to put Dublin behind the eighth ball from an early stage, in both quarter finals. And they both did. Surely Dublin must have been expecting Kerry to throw everything at them in the first five minutes this year? But the dubs were shellshocked and bar a few moments of individual brilliance from the Brogans had no answer.

A lot of people say they wilted under the pressure and maybe they did but my theory is that Tyrone and Kerry are simply that much better than the Dubs. Never been further from an All-Ireland in my opinion.

Its also been proven by scientists that the more intelligent you are, the more likely you are to choke under pressure. Probably why Kerry have 36 All-Irelands. What this could also mean is that the Dublin football team is by far the brainiest out there. On the other hand, science could be wrong and Dublin just aren't good enough.

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:
Its also been proven by scientists that the more intelligent you are, the more likely you are to choke under pressure. Probably why Kerry have 36 All-Irelands. What this could also mean is that the Dublin football team is by far the brainiest out there. On the other hand, science could be wrong and Dublin just aren't good enough.

Ya, science is wrong!

I notice that this is in the non GAA section.

3inarow08 wrote:Unfortunately for Dublin, I think so. 2010 will be a tough year for ye in my opinion. If ye win Leinster ye'll be doing well, whereas the last few years has been a cake-walk. Losing in Leinster may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for ye. Also, and I know this isn't Dublin's fault, but ye might be better off travelling around the country. Ye're first game away to Wexford has been fixed for Croker hasn't it? More than likely ye'll win handy there (sorry Jim!) but ye'd be better getting a tough game down in Wexford where ye might scrape through by a point or two.

Oh and welcome Mullins! You can keep JayoCluxton company! You might be able to take him in from the cold and offer him a bed for the night!

not going to argue going on last year but hey where afraid to come down and instead demanded we travel to Croker.
Logical reason for this too, bigger crowd in Croker so the provinical grant coffers get swelled and the Leinster council can look good yet again giving out grants.
Again I can't give out as a Wexford man is the Leinster chairman and our county chairman was co-opted as well (without the backing of the county board) but f it was a hurling match garuntee they would fight tooth and nail to keep it in Wexford

3inarow08 wrote:Unfortunately for Dublin, I think so. 2010 will be a tough year for ye in my opinion. If ye win Leinster ye'll be doing well, whereas the last few years has been a cake-walk. Losing in Leinster may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for ye. Also, and I know this isn't Dublin's fault, but ye might be better off travelling around the country. Ye're first game away to Wexford has been fixed for Croker hasn't it? More than likely ye'll win handy there (sorry Jim!) but ye'd be better getting a tough game down in Wexford where ye might scrape through by a point or two.

Oh and welcome Mullins! You can keep JayoCluxton company! You might be able to take him in from the cold and offer him a bed for the night!

3inarow im not going to write 2010 of just yet..We might be wounded badly from previous battles but it wasn't fatal..Now the pressure is off could help the players a little this year...Heres hoping and we got the easy side of the draw in leinster so cant see us going the scenic route....

mullins wrote:

3inarow08 wrote:Unfortunately for Dublin, I think so. 2010 will be a tough year for ye in my opinion. If ye win Leinster ye'll be doing well, whereas the last few years has been a cake-walk. Losing in Leinster may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for ye. Also, and I know this isn't Dublin's fault, but ye might be better off travelling around the country. Ye're first game away to Wexford has been fixed for Croker hasn't it? More than likely ye'll win handy there (sorry Jim!) but ye'd be better getting a tough game down in Wexford where ye might scrape through by a point or two.

Oh and welcome Mullins! You can keep JayoCluxton company! You might be able to take him in from the cold and offer him a bed for the night!

3inarow im not going to write 2010 of just yet..We might be wounded badly from previous battles but it wasn't fatal..Now the pressure is off could help the players a little this year...Heres hoping and we got the easy side of the draw in leinster so cant see us going the scenic route....

go one ye cowards ye wouldn't even play us at home.
Ye'll say that ye'll beat us by this and that minus a few plus the odd goal but ye are afraid of us. The "mighty" dubs would only play us in Croker or parallel afraid to go as far as carlow even just cause we gave ye a scare that year.

Or is it when ye travel the amount of strippers and flashers seem to skyrocket.
At least 8 alone at halftime.

JimWexford wrote:

mullins wrote:

3inarow08 wrote:Unfortunately for Dublin, I think so. 2010 will be a tough year for ye in my opinion. If ye win Leinster ye'll be doing well, whereas the last few years has been a cake-walk. Losing in Leinster may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for ye. Also, and I know this isn't Dublin's fault, but ye might be better off travelling around the country. Ye're first game away to Wexford has been fixed for Croker hasn't it? More than likely ye'll win handy there (sorry Jim!) but ye'd be better getting a tough game down in Wexford where ye might scrape through by a point or two.

Oh and welcome Mullins! You can keep JayoCluxton company! You might be able to take him in from the cold and offer him a bed for the night!

3inarow im not going to write 2010 of just yet..We might be wounded badly from previous battles but it wasn't fatal..Now the pressure is off could help the players a little this year...Heres hoping and we got the easy side of the draw in leinster so cant see us going the scenic route....

go one ye cowards ye wouldn't even play us at home.
Ye'll say that ye'll beat us by this and that minus a few plus the odd goal but ye are afraid of us. The "mighty" dubs would only play us in Croker or parallel afraid to go as far as carlow even just cause we gave ye a scare that year.

Or is it when ye travel the amount of strippers and flashers seem to skyrocket.
At least 8 alone at halftime.

jim the Dubs wanted to travel but the leinster council wanted this match in croker even though unless the Dubs have a good league campaign i believe the crowd in wexford pk would have been bigger...Wont comment on strippers because their not fans..

Oh just to clarify - the game is on in Croke Park - everybody's ground. Dublin's is Parnell Park ....

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Oh just to clarify - the game is on in Croke Park - everybody's ground. Dublin's is Parnell Park ....

Just to clarify its a 100miles closer to yous than us

JimWexford wrote:

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Oh just to clarify - the game is on in Croke Park - everybody's ground. Dublin's is Parnell Park ....

Just to clarify its a 100miles closer to yous than us

Ah didn't we build ye a fine road - and not a toll in sight on it!

wonder what the east link, usual route to croker for wexford crowd, meaghers of fairview and the can't think of the other one 5 lamps (that could be in Naas).
Think of what a nice pint would be like going to a game JC we can't anymore!!

Jaysus I don't know. You have half the crowd on here moaning that they never get a chance to play in Croker and then the other half complaining when they have to play in Croker. Begrudgery is no longer our national pastime - its moaning!

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Jaysus I don't know. You have half the crowd on here moaning that they never get a chance to play in Croker and then the other half complaining when they have to play in Croker. Begrudgery is no longer our national pastime - its moaning!

You only cop than on now I realised that after we got the sh8t hopped out of us at an u12 match a few moons ago

JimWexford wrote:You only cop than on now I realised that after we got the sh8t hopped out of us at an u12 match a few moons ago

Ah right now I get it Jim. So that was your U12 team that we beat 3-23 to 0-09 in the 2008 Leinster Final!!! That makes sense now alright!

Jayo Cluxton wrote:

JimWexford wrote:You only cop than on now I realised that after we got the sh8t hopped out of us at an u12 match a few moons ago

Ah right now I get it Jim. So that was your U12 team that we beat 3-23 to 0-09 in the 2008 Leinster Final!!! That makes sense now alright!

Wasn't taking about dublin Wex but my own playing career and when it started at the U12 level smart arse