Davy leaves Waterford, Donal leaves Limerick
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mossbags wrote:It's between Micheal Donoghue and Anthony Cunningham. Tom Helebert must have some role too. Whoever gets Eamonn O Shea on the ticket gets the job. I'd have a slight preference for Donoghue but wouldn't be perturbed in the slightest if Cunningham got the gig. He used to train me so he must be good. Just wish those Davy rumours would go away. Not as worried about the Donal O Grady onesmullins wrote:mossbags wrote:Mcyntires gone
Who do you want there moss,is their any Galway man that will take the job
Moss i think Galway will go with one of their own,O'Grady wouldn't come cheap....Can't see what Davy would bring to Galway......Cunningham done well with the 21s..Galway have the players they need to stand up to,its to easy to shoot the manager all the time
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Has Mattie Murphy no interest?
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A lot of change on the hurling landscape. Cork, Waterford, Clare, Limerick, Galway, Wexford and Offaly all with new managers in 2011. Hardly what hurling needs as a whole and looking like another Kilkenny and Tipperary final already.
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Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:A lot of change on the hurling landscape. Cork, Waterford, Clare, Limerick, Galway, Wexford and Offaly all with new managers in 2011. Hardly what hurling needs as a whole and looking like another Kilkenny and Tipperary final already.
I dunno - I hear there are great things happening in Meath hurling .....
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Jayo Cluxton wrote:Has Mattie Murphy no interest?
Mattie would have plenty of enemies & grudges within the county, doubt he would get it
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The Puke wrote:Jayo Cluxton wrote:Has Mattie Murphy no interest?
Mattie would have plenty of enemies & grudges within the county, doubt he would get it
While I know minor success does not obviously mean senior success - surely he deserves a shot at it for his underage record ... if he wanted it!
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Jayo Cluxton wrote:The Puke wrote:Jayo Cluxton wrote:Has Mattie Murphy no interest?
Mattie would have plenty of enemies & grudges within the county, doubt he would get it
While I know minor success does not obviously mean senior success - surely he deserves a shot at it for his underage record ... if he wanted it!
Won't get it, is even on record himself saying as much. Has too many bridges burn. Still holds a fairly sizable grudge from his last spell in charge of the seniors there a decade ago which doesn't help
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Davy to Clare is as good as a done deal.
Hasn't even been ratified and put his foot in it at the weekend. not a good start
Hasn't even been ratified and put his foot in it at the weekend. not a good start
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The Puke wrote:Davy to Clare is as good as a done deal.
Hasn't even been ratified and put his foot in it at the weekend. not a good start
Deadline closed friday night and Davy's is the only name that will go before the county board. given the power his father holds it is no real surprise that nobody else has put their name forward.
At least it will be a clean transition
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The Puke wrote:Deadline closed friday night and Davy's is the only name that will go before the county board. given the power his father holds it is no real surprise that nobody else has put their name forward.
At least it will be a clean transition
Why am I thinking of Papa Doc and Jean Claude Duvalier here...Hi jinks in the Banner in 2012 hopefully.
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It will certainly be interesting to see what Davy brings to Clare. They have good players coming up now and with the right handling should see an All-Ireland final within the next three years.
He went ultra defensive with Waterford, which, I suppose was understandable, given Waterford's kamikaze style of defence. In doing so, though, he reduced the Desie's attacking capabilities which used to be so attractive to watch - even when we were playing against them!
It will be an interesting league and an even more interesting Munster championship!
He went ultra defensive with Waterford, which, I suppose was understandable, given Waterford's kamikaze style of defence. In doing so, though, he reduced the Desie's attacking capabilities which used to be so attractive to watch - even when we were playing against them!
It will be an interesting league and an even more interesting Munster championship!
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Young and enthusiastic group of players is the type of team Davy excels with.
Clare will have a nice cut at the Munster Championship next year.
I see he's lining out for Sixmilebridge in this weekend's race to the Canon Hamilton Trophy too.
Clare will have a nice cut at the Munster Championship next year.
I see he's lining out for Sixmilebridge in this weekend's race to the Canon Hamilton Trophy too.
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According to the Limerick Leader it is between three men for the Limerick job. Ciaran Carey, TJ Ryan and John Allen
Gerald McCarthy is one of the front runners for the Waterford job according to the Examiner
Gerald McCarthy is one of the front runners for the Waterford job according to the Examiner
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I'm a little surprised to hear that. Gerald was the manager of Waterford just prior to Justin taking over and he left them at that stage because he'd gone as far with them as he could. Waterford look to be in a bit of a mess from an organizational point of view at the moment. They undoubtly have the hurlers, but their confidence might have suffered a little. I wonder if Gerald will change their style again and bring them back to what they used to be good at - piling up high scores?
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Michael Ryan will be the new Waterford manager. First native in since the mid 90's.
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The Puke wrote:Michael Ryan will be the new Waterford manager. First native in since the mid 90's.
An uphill struggle awaits him....Their best days are behind them. They had 6-8 years when they were close but not good enough, hard to replicate that form as the ageing warriors get older/depart.....
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Boxtyeater wrote:The Puke wrote:Michael Ryan will be the new Waterford manager. First native in since the mid 90's.
An uphill struggle awaits him....Their best days are behind them. They had 6-8 years when they were close but not good enough, hard to replicate that form as the ageing warriors get older/depart.....
They are lacking potent attackers(Mullane aside) what they wouldn't giive for a Clement Cuniffe or someone of that ilk
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You're a gas man...great shout.
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I believe that Wexford and Galway are the only two left to make appointments.
Somewhat bewildered by the choices Laois and Offaly have made, both fine players but neither are close to the standard required to be intercounty managers, can't see them bringing much improvement to either team
Somewhat bewildered by the choices Laois and Offaly have made, both fine players but neither are close to the standard required to be intercounty managers, can't see them bringing much improvement to either team
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Davy wants no special treatment
Newly appointed Clare hurling manager Davy Fitzgerald’s relationship with the county board is going to be very open he said and that he will not be looking for any special treatment.
“A lot of people here will probably say ‘because he is Pat Fitz’s son he will get what he wants’, this that and the other thing. I have made it quite clear to Michael [O’Neill] that I am prepared to work on the same parameters as any other team manager has worked in over the last few years, prepared to look for the same things that they have looked for, the same amount of money to be spent on the team.
“As for my Dad, the amount of respect I have for him is unreal. I know that he mightn’t be all yer cup of tea at times. He has his ways and he can be pretty dogmatic. Trust me, I have fought with him enough myself. I am very proud of him and whether ye like him or not doesn’t bother me. I know he is very honest and straight and the one thing he has in his head is Clare GAA and there are no favourites in that,” Fitzgerald said.
No grudges
“There will be no grudges, no anything, no reaction to any media criticism I get. I am going to do my job to the best of my ability and all I ask for is your support as much as possible,” he continued.
“If any club has anything they want to talk to me about, anything with regard to their players, I am willing to talk to anybody. I don’t believe in talking behind people’s backs. If a club has a problem we will sit down face-to-face and we will have a chat. I will have my opinion, you will have yours. We will come to a compromise. All of us working together is the most important thing,” he said.
Clare must be more competitive
The initial target facing the Clare senior hurling team is to become more competitive, Fitzgerald says.
“We are not competing with the top six or seven counties at the moment. It will take a small bit of work to change that. Our strength and conditioning has to be better, our play has to be faster and we must be a bit more aggressive in the tackle,” he said at the October meeting of Clare GAA on Tuesday.
The Sixmilebridge man was unanimously appointed as the new manager and given a three-year term at the helm. Fitzgerald named Mike Deegan (Cratloe) and former St Joseph’s trainer Louis Mulqueen as selectors, before confirming the remainder of his backroom team will be appointed in consultation with the board executive. He confirmed there won’t be any more selectors but in the coming days, he will be finalising the appointment of a physical trainer and a strength and conditioning coach.
“We were very unlucky in the last two league finals as we could have won both. In the first round of the Munster championship in both years, they played ok but we have to be better than ok. As I said to last night’s meeting, I am making no promises other than I will work extremely hard for Clare hurling,” Fitzgerald said.
Fitzgerald and his selectors will meet an initial panel of players on Friday week. “Training panels will be given their programmes then. I don’t envisage collective training until January but the players will be given work that they will have to have done before then.”
According to the new manager, he still has to find out about players. “We still have a few guys we want to see. The older lads will be given a chance as well. It will take a big of sorting out. We will be trying to win every league game but it’s a good bit tougher now. Wexford, Limerick and Offaly are in our group and they are supposed to be ahead of us. It’s no longer a league that Clare are meant to come out of automatically.”
While he readily acknowledged there are a lot of good young hurlers in the county, he argued it has been proved that doing well in minor and U-21 doesn’t guarantee success, as has been shown in Galway and Limerick.
“They have to perform at senior level. We have to work on that and it won’t happen overnight.”
Asked for his view on the standard of Clare hurling at this time, he replied, “People will say the standard has dropped. Where were we before ’95?” he asked. “I still think we have a competitive championship. I don’t buy into what other people are saying. That’s a matter of opinion.”
Dual player issue
WITH regard to dual players, Fitzgerald said he won’t be pushing them in any one direction. “It’s very hard to do both. Players are only going to do three or four sessions a week. I don’t believe in flogging a player to death; a sensible approach must be taken. They will be made aware that they won’t be over-trained,” he said.
“One guy should look at the strength and conditioning of all teams. It’s very important that one guy does this. We are not physically as strong as the others. We must be able to compete in the tackle and not be blown away. I have suggested to the county board that one guy would look at strength and conditioning of all the teams.
“I have seen different things in papers for the last few weeks about trying to run this team or that team. My suggestion to Michael [O’Neill] is that there will be communication between all teams. I will never tell an U-21 manager or a minor or U-16 manager how to run his team. That’s his job but I think we must all have communication and be on the same wavelength about what we do. That’s the one thing that I will ask for, that we all are working together,” Fitzgerald said.
Club vs county
ON the question of club versus county with regard to fixtures, the new manager said, “There is ground in between the complete shut down we had in 1995 and now. I have had to deal with this issue in Waterford where we normally got three weeks coming into the championship and one needs that. I have also served as a club manager and I accept there are two sides in every argument. I will have no problem with players taking part in club games but there might be times when I will say to a player not to play. It will be in the best interest of the player,” he said.
The former All-star goalkeeper added, “It’s a great honour to accept the position of manager and it’s great to be back home”.
He recalled attending his first Clare match in Thurles in 1977, which he watched while sitting on the shoulders of his uncle, John. After that game and particularly watching his hero, Seamus Durack, all he wanted was to play for Clare.
“That was my dream back then and I was very lucky to get my break and play for Clare and achieve what we did. The reason we achieved was the great people we had around us, the great management and the great players. There was no one individual, there might have been certain players picked out at times, but it was the characters we had around us and the team ethos. The support from the county board and the clubs made that a very special period and it’s something I hope we go back to,” he said.
A team effort
Fitzgerald acknowledged all who rang him and asked him to allow his name forward for this job. It meant a lot that so many clubs actually rang and asked me and I was delighted with that,” he said, thanking the clubs “for showing their faith in me”.
“There is no one man going to make Clare a success. It’s going to take a team working together and working in different areas. We will work very hard on that. We all know that the last few years haven’t been fruitful for Clare. I won’t promise a quick fix. I can’t tell you I am going to turn things around and that we will go back to the glory days but the one thing I will tell you is I am going to work as hard as I possibly can. Everything I can do for Clare I am going to try and do it to bring us back up to where we need to be. That’s all I can promise,” he said.
Fitzgerald also praised the work of his predecessor Ger O’Loughlin. “I think Sparrow did a great job in the last two years. It wasn’t an easy job to come into after what had happened. He came in, he rejigged it and he started to build again. My own personal view is that the rebuilding is still far from finished. I am going to be straight about it. I think there are more players needed to be brought in and they are going to get a go. I think you have to be patient for a small bit. We all want the same thing but we have got to find out what is what and to me, character is very important. It’s important we get a bit of time. We are going to have a lot of young players in.”
With regard to Clare’s recent success at U-16, minor and U-21 levels, Fitzgerald singled out former Bord na nÓg chairman Sean O’Halloran for special mention. “There is one man that I don’t think has got much credit for it. I shoot from the hip all the time and I think the job Sean O’Halloran has done is absolutely fantastic. I know it and I have been working with him for a long time. The 21 and minor successes we have had over the last few years is down to Sean and his committee,” he said.
Newly appointed Clare hurling manager Davy Fitzgerald’s relationship with the county board is going to be very open he said and that he will not be looking for any special treatment.
“A lot of people here will probably say ‘because he is Pat Fitz’s son he will get what he wants’, this that and the other thing. I have made it quite clear to Michael [O’Neill] that I am prepared to work on the same parameters as any other team manager has worked in over the last few years, prepared to look for the same things that they have looked for, the same amount of money to be spent on the team.
“As for my Dad, the amount of respect I have for him is unreal. I know that he mightn’t be all yer cup of tea at times. He has his ways and he can be pretty dogmatic. Trust me, I have fought with him enough myself. I am very proud of him and whether ye like him or not doesn’t bother me. I know he is very honest and straight and the one thing he has in his head is Clare GAA and there are no favourites in that,” Fitzgerald said.
No grudges
“There will be no grudges, no anything, no reaction to any media criticism I get. I am going to do my job to the best of my ability and all I ask for is your support as much as possible,” he continued.
“If any club has anything they want to talk to me about, anything with regard to their players, I am willing to talk to anybody. I don’t believe in talking behind people’s backs. If a club has a problem we will sit down face-to-face and we will have a chat. I will have my opinion, you will have yours. We will come to a compromise. All of us working together is the most important thing,” he said.
Clare must be more competitive
The initial target facing the Clare senior hurling team is to become more competitive, Fitzgerald says.
“We are not competing with the top six or seven counties at the moment. It will take a small bit of work to change that. Our strength and conditioning has to be better, our play has to be faster and we must be a bit more aggressive in the tackle,” he said at the October meeting of Clare GAA on Tuesday.
The Sixmilebridge man was unanimously appointed as the new manager and given a three-year term at the helm. Fitzgerald named Mike Deegan (Cratloe) and former St Joseph’s trainer Louis Mulqueen as selectors, before confirming the remainder of his backroom team will be appointed in consultation with the board executive. He confirmed there won’t be any more selectors but in the coming days, he will be finalising the appointment of a physical trainer and a strength and conditioning coach.
“We were very unlucky in the last two league finals as we could have won both. In the first round of the Munster championship in both years, they played ok but we have to be better than ok. As I said to last night’s meeting, I am making no promises other than I will work extremely hard for Clare hurling,” Fitzgerald said.
Fitzgerald and his selectors will meet an initial panel of players on Friday week. “Training panels will be given their programmes then. I don’t envisage collective training until January but the players will be given work that they will have to have done before then.”
According to the new manager, he still has to find out about players. “We still have a few guys we want to see. The older lads will be given a chance as well. It will take a big of sorting out. We will be trying to win every league game but it’s a good bit tougher now. Wexford, Limerick and Offaly are in our group and they are supposed to be ahead of us. It’s no longer a league that Clare are meant to come out of automatically.”
While he readily acknowledged there are a lot of good young hurlers in the county, he argued it has been proved that doing well in minor and U-21 doesn’t guarantee success, as has been shown in Galway and Limerick.
“They have to perform at senior level. We have to work on that and it won’t happen overnight.”
Asked for his view on the standard of Clare hurling at this time, he replied, “People will say the standard has dropped. Where were we before ’95?” he asked. “I still think we have a competitive championship. I don’t buy into what other people are saying. That’s a matter of opinion.”
Dual player issue
WITH regard to dual players, Fitzgerald said he won’t be pushing them in any one direction. “It’s very hard to do both. Players are only going to do three or four sessions a week. I don’t believe in flogging a player to death; a sensible approach must be taken. They will be made aware that they won’t be over-trained,” he said.
“One guy should look at the strength and conditioning of all teams. It’s very important that one guy does this. We are not physically as strong as the others. We must be able to compete in the tackle and not be blown away. I have suggested to the county board that one guy would look at strength and conditioning of all the teams.
“I have seen different things in papers for the last few weeks about trying to run this team or that team. My suggestion to Michael [O’Neill] is that there will be communication between all teams. I will never tell an U-21 manager or a minor or U-16 manager how to run his team. That’s his job but I think we must all have communication and be on the same wavelength about what we do. That’s the one thing that I will ask for, that we all are working together,” Fitzgerald said.
Club vs county
ON the question of club versus county with regard to fixtures, the new manager said, “There is ground in between the complete shut down we had in 1995 and now. I have had to deal with this issue in Waterford where we normally got three weeks coming into the championship and one needs that. I have also served as a club manager and I accept there are two sides in every argument. I will have no problem with players taking part in club games but there might be times when I will say to a player not to play. It will be in the best interest of the player,” he said.
The former All-star goalkeeper added, “It’s a great honour to accept the position of manager and it’s great to be back home”.
He recalled attending his first Clare match in Thurles in 1977, which he watched while sitting on the shoulders of his uncle, John. After that game and particularly watching his hero, Seamus Durack, all he wanted was to play for Clare.
“That was my dream back then and I was very lucky to get my break and play for Clare and achieve what we did. The reason we achieved was the great people we had around us, the great management and the great players. There was no one individual, there might have been certain players picked out at times, but it was the characters we had around us and the team ethos. The support from the county board and the clubs made that a very special period and it’s something I hope we go back to,” he said.
A team effort
Fitzgerald acknowledged all who rang him and asked him to allow his name forward for this job. It meant a lot that so many clubs actually rang and asked me and I was delighted with that,” he said, thanking the clubs “for showing their faith in me”.
“There is no one man going to make Clare a success. It’s going to take a team working together and working in different areas. We will work very hard on that. We all know that the last few years haven’t been fruitful for Clare. I won’t promise a quick fix. I can’t tell you I am going to turn things around and that we will go back to the glory days but the one thing I will tell you is I am going to work as hard as I possibly can. Everything I can do for Clare I am going to try and do it to bring us back up to where we need to be. That’s all I can promise,” he said.
Fitzgerald also praised the work of his predecessor Ger O’Loughlin. “I think Sparrow did a great job in the last two years. It wasn’t an easy job to come into after what had happened. He came in, he rejigged it and he started to build again. My own personal view is that the rebuilding is still far from finished. I am going to be straight about it. I think there are more players needed to be brought in and they are going to get a go. I think you have to be patient for a small bit. We all want the same thing but we have got to find out what is what and to me, character is very important. It’s important we get a bit of time. We are going to have a lot of young players in.”
With regard to Clare’s recent success at U-16, minor and U-21 levels, Fitzgerald singled out former Bord na nÓg chairman Sean O’Halloran for special mention. “There is one man that I don’t think has got much credit for it. I shoot from the hip all the time and I think the job Sean O’Halloran has done is absolutely fantastic. I know it and I have been working with him for a long time. The 21 and minor successes we have had over the last few years is down to Sean and his committee,” he said.
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Nice guy Liam Dunne has been appointed the new manager of Wexford
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NEW Galway hurling boss Anthony Cunningham has dropped one third of the team which started the All-Ireland quarter-final against Waterford this year in a massive clear-out.
Damien Joyce, who was named Galway captain earlier this year, has also been dropped along with another former skipper Shane Kavanagh, half-backs Donal Barry and Adrian Cullinane, former All Star Ger Farragher and attacker Joe Gantley.
Defender John Lee, who came on as a sub in that ten-point loss to Waterford, is another big casualty as Cunningham and his selectors, Tom Helebert and Mattie Kenny, opt for youth in a bid to end Galway’s quest for All-Ireland glory.
They have picked 18 members of this year’s U21 squad, which Cunningham and his selectors guided to All-Ireland glory, in the 37-man squad.
"Some of those players who are not included have given years of service to Galway hurling and we acknowledge that, but we think this is the best squad at the moment. It will change, some will come and go," he said.
"We will be monitoring club and college games, as well as the Galway development squad, and the squad will be revised again for the national league."
Galway squad 2012: J Skehill, D Collins, F Moore, T Óg Regan, K Hynes, A Smith, C Donnellan, E Ryan, D Hayes, J Canning, M Lydon, J Ryan, B Daly, C Cooney, D Burke, D Glennon, G O’Halloran, J Regan, J Grealish, J Coen, N Burke, R Cummins, B Regan, I Tannian, B Burke, C Burke, D Cooney, D Fox, F Flannery, N Donoghue, P Gordon, T Haran, A Harte, P Huban, M Horan, B Flaherty.
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Rumour has it Eoin Kelly has been dropped from the Waterford panel.
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