Re: What did Tyrone bring to the table?

**Thomas Clarke** Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:41 pm

bocerty wrote:
I dont however like the accusation levelled at Tyrone that they were dirtier than anything that went before them !!!!!

In fairness Boc, I don't think that anyone would take that accusation seriously. At least, not while the Dirty Dozen of 1983 are rememberred, or 'Cheating Charlie' of '95.

Come to think of it, that'd be a good quiz question (for our elderly posters, obviously):

'When was the last time that Dublin won an senior all-ireland football final without having a man sent off for dirty play?'

**Loyal2TheRoyal** Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:55 pm

Real Kerry Fan wrote:
Peter Solan the Great wrote:
Thomas Clarke wrote:
Peter Solan the Great wrote: The Golden era for the GAA came in the 90's. I dont think the Kerry and Tyrone teams were as good as the teams in the 90's.

What was so good about the 90s?

Brilliant Galway,Mayo Donegal, Derry, Kildare, Dublin, Roscommon and Meath teams. Fast exciting open football. Lack of predictability each year. What is it with Tyone people and their inability to take any criticism? If it makes you fell better.

Tyrone are the best ever team to don a GAA Jersey.
They are an inspiration to GAA players everywhere.
The Tyrone team Number 1-15 will make the team of the Millinium in the year 3000
They revolusionised GAA tactics. Tactics that will in years to come be utilised by professional sports all over the world.

I cannot agree. Galway,one good year,Donegal,Derry all had one good year and vanished the following year. Mayo? Remember they were beaten by Kerry in 1997 which was not rated as one of the better Kerry teams.Kildare handpassed from one end to the other of the field(Micko admitted he did'nt have thet quality players to play otherwise)Roscommon????,Meath? Two All Irelands, should have been one as Mayo blew it in 1996(Not a great Mayo) team.Dublin were above average but not great.Down were probably the best team of the 90's. Galway did show up again in 2001 but otherwise to say the 90's was a superior decade is a bit off track. Now that Tyrone and Kerry are out does not mean that the football has improved. It may in the eyes of those outside the two counties as sometimes change can give the impression of improvement.

Also agree that Kerry/Tyrone are probably the two best Gaelic Football teams in GAA history. As Peter Solan says, History is written by the conquerers.

However I would question the rationale of the above post.
Galway one good year - Disagree
Donegal/Derry disappeared after one good year - Disagree
Kildare handpassing - Disagree
Meath only deserving one All-Ireland - Disagree
Down best team - Disagree

**samin12** Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:01 pm

bocerty wrote:
mullins wrote:
bocerty wrote:
mullins wrote:I often though about the Tyrone moaning about Paddy Russell after 95 justified or not..But recently i started thinking who was the ref in 05 ,that handed them a handy winning free in the last minuite to knock Armagh out of the championship in 05...To my surprise who was it only the one and only Paddy Russell makes you wonder really..Never hear any Tyrone fans thanking Paddy for that one... :affraid:

i would suggest you look at that one again Mullins - McKeever committed a foul at a time and in an area were he had no need to foul, we had little chance of scoring from that area, had he stood his ground he more than likely would have forced Tyrone back rather than handing them the free.

I for one bear no bitterness towards Russell he got a decision wrong but he didnt have the benefit of all the replays we have had since, also had the shoe been on the other foot you can rest assured Dubs all over the land would still be whinging about it so make it out to be a Tyrone thing

Bocerty all im saying is things even out over time ,i would expect you to say free in, wonder would Armagh supporters agree with you.

Did Mulligan foul the ball in 05 v Dublin for his goal..

and i totally agree Mullins some days the ball rolls for you some days against you - i dont think too many Armagh people would say it wasn't a free in fact i dont think too many Armagh players complained at the time either.
Did Mulligan foul the ball? Tyrone people would say no Dubs would say yes thats no surprise surely. The penalty Cavanagh won in 05 replay looked a stone wall penalty at the time and yet the replay showed it was a bloody great tackle.

Should Whelan have been sent off more time sin his career than he actually was??? The answer would depend on who you ask and we could go on and on with more examples till you were blue in the face.

I dont however like the accusation levelled at Tyrone that they were dirtier than anything that went before them !!!!!

totally agree, thought the free at the end was soft enough but the ref called it as a free which is fair enough, it did not come about as a result of a dive or cheating which is the main reason nobody complained. Cant say the same about 2003

**Jayo Cluxton** Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:10 pm

bocerty wrote:I dont however like the accusation levelled at Tyrone that they were dirtier than anything that went before them !!!!!

Who levelled that one Boc? Don't see it here. For sure Dublin teams knew how to look after themselves too - as did Kerry, Meath (certainly) and others.

And I think most of Dublin's 22 titles were won with the appropriate number of players finishing the game. 1983 semi replay was a feast of classic football - not so the final, fair enough. You may ask why there was a ref from ........... Antrim. I wouldn't though ....

**bocerty** Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:22 am

Jayo Cluxton wrote:
bocerty wrote:I dont however like the accusation levelled at Tyrone that they were dirtier than anything that went before them !!!!!

Who levelled that one Boc? Don't see it here. For sure Dublin teams knew how to look after themselves too - as did Kerry, Meath (certainly) and others.

And I think most of Dublin's 22 titles were won with the appropriate number of players finishing the game. 1983 semi replay was a feast of classic football - not so the final, fair enough. You may ask why there was a ref from ........... Antrim. I wouldn't though ....

Jayo you said they brought sledging to a new low - which roughly translated means they were a dirty shower of baxtards worse than anything seen before - No.............................

**Jayo Cluxton** Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:25 am

bocerty wrote:Jayo you said they brought sledging to a new low - which roughly translated means they were a dirty shower of baxtards worse than anything seen before - No.............................

No - not at all. Would see sledging as completely different to dirty play.

**bocerty** Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:00 am

Jayo Cluxton wrote:
bocerty wrote:Jayo you said they brought sledging to a new low - which roughly translated means they were a dirty shower of baxtards worse than anything seen before - No.............................

No - not at all. Would see sledging as completely different to dirty play.

fair enough my mistake - i picked you up wrong

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