Derry v Monaghan USFC

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:Why so few posts on this game?

If this dosen't get people posting, then I'm not sure what will.

I've said my bit anyway Loyal. Terrible game but that doesn't matter if you come out the right side of it. Very disappointed but sure that's the way it goes.

I'm sure Loyal will agree with me when I say that last year the media were in a state of apoplexy after the Dublin v Meath league game. "Suspend them" cried one, "Ban them" cried another - all this after handbags. I've seen worse in the queue for the ladies in McGowans.

There has been a bit of a furore about Derry v Monaghan but not near as much as when Dublin or Meath are involved. Only saw the Sunday game but Tohill squirmed in his seat a bit but if it was Dublin he's have lost the plot completely.

It doesn't surprise me really, unless the referees implement the rules, they will continue to be broken. Looking forward to the 8th of June and see what type of comments come out that day.

Its not going to get many posts, we only have 3 regulars from Derry and Monaghan.

But from my point of view, I only watched bits and pieces of the game. Kept hearing my mum saying "You dorty bastard" Looked up at the TV at the replay and seen a Derry player dragging a Monghan player down to the floor in a headlock and then what appeared to be a knee to the lower body. I do like a rough game and it what this game by the sounds of it needed otherwise it would have been a rather dull game.

Will reserve any further judgement on the game untill I watch the match later on RTE. Hopefully Admin will have the video up on the website later.

Armaghgeddon wrote:Its not going to get many posts, we only have 3 regulars from Derry and Monaghan.

But from my point of view, I only watched bits and pieces of the game. Kept hearing my mum saying "You dorty bastard" Looked up at the TV at the replay and seen a Derry player dragging a Monghan player down to the floor in a headlock and then what appeared to be a knee to the lower body. I do like a rough game and it what this game by the sounds of it needed otherwise it would have been a rather dull game.

Will reserve any further judgement on the game untill I watch the match later on RTE. Hopefully Admin will have the video up on the website later.

You are Armaghgeddon!

Armaghgeddon wrote: I only watched bits and pieces of the game. Kept hearing my mum saying "You dorty bastard"

Are you sure you just weren't dribbling your dinner all over yourself again ........

Rory Gallagher's view

Bright-Oak wrote:Rory Gallagher's view

Yeah a great piece . He doesn't even mention any of the problem incidents FFS. Just a lazy comment about refs.
Poor effort.

2/10 - must try harder.

Joe Brolly slams the Hypocrites

Justice is finally to be served as Dick Clerkin is set to have a 8 week ban imposed on him for the scenes in Celtic Part where he stamped on Fergal Doherty's moth causing it to bust and Fergal still has stud marks on his face 3 weeks after the incident. Finally the main aggressor of the whole thing is set to be banned. Fergal is by no stretch of the imagination innocent in all of this but Clerkin was under the radar too long and deserves 8 weeks a hell of a lot more than Freeman does.

Seen this story today in the Irish Mail on Sunday.

(Sorry MMM but I believe Dick Clerkin was a the root of a lot of went went on.)

Brolly's an arsehole for this witchhunt on Clerkin, he's got a real vendetta against him, and Monaghan in general it seems. It was bad alright Niamh but Doherty attempted an eye gouge on Clerkin(and it's clear as day in the photo Niamh, two fingers right in the eye), and what does he get but a ban reduction. Of course Clerkin shouldn't have done it, but the main reason for the bans being reduced was the allegation that they were provoked, what's to say Clerkin wasn't provoked into this? If you can argue McManus provoked Mullen to give him a knee surely this is plausible? Brolly got extra footage and trawled through it looking for dirt and he found it. I very much doubt he'd highlight any unsavoury incidents that weren't shown at the time, like Doherty stamping on Dessie Mone's arm for one thing. You say Brolly slams the hypocrites? The man has just defended the two lads and their dirty acts and got their bans reduced(did a good job too the fecker!), but aside from it is condemning Clerkin for his actions(and personally attacking the man too may I add) and now seems to have succeeded in his quest, what does this make him Niamh?

Fergal Doc should never have gotten 8 weeks neither should Freeman, Mullan should never have gotten his reduced, Brolly did his job if there is video evidence to suggest things were not as they seemed then there is no reason why this should not be used or perhaps Clerkin should have gotten away with his underhand tactics?

Reasons why Bans were reduced

You say there is a witch hunt out for Clerkin, what about the witch hunt out for Fergal and Brian in the previous weeks? I will say again MMM I am basing nothing in a photograph that has been taken in a nanosecond of an entire sequence of play who in under god can you judge a man on a still shot- I will say again that is a very serious accusation you are making and until there is adequate video footage you shouldn't got accusing people

Their nans weren't reduced on the grounds they were provoked either. I also don't believe Mc Manus provoked Mullan into the knee incident however Mullan should have initially gotten a free before it went that far as Mc Manus rugby tackled him to the ground. (I am by no means excusing Mullan's behaviour.)

Kneeing incident


Also, this isn't the first time Dick Clerkin has been accused for similar tactics, ask Dara O Sé...

Ah jesus, I can argue all day but one thing I can't agree with straight off is that McManus rugby tackled him, you've got the link to it up there and you seriously believe that!?
I'll say it again, they had a hold of each other, how anyone can't see this is beyond me. Mullen had him by the neck and their legs got tangled through each other and they fell to the ground. Also, I've heard it said that Mullen kneed him to get free, which is clearly also a load of ballix. And I've even seen it said that McManus deserved it because of the alleged "rugby tackle"! Some of the reaction on that particular incident amazes me. I know McManus and have seen him play for a long time, and as good a prospect he is he ain't no rugby tackler! He'd be very lightweight and wouldn't be able to take someone down like that if he tried! I guarantee if Mullen hadn't his arm around his neck and their legs didn't get caught together then Mullen's feet wouldn't even have lifted off the ground!

You have just repeated everything Brolly said on Drivetime, Bright-Oak. You are as bad as him. And what fcuking pr1ck he is. I am e-mailing RTE tomorrow requesting that he be taken off the airwaves for good. A complete idiot, words cannot describe my dislike of him, smoke is coming off my keyboard as I type.

Here are the facts, Mullan should have got six months for what he done. 8 weeks was getting off lightly, "he tried to get up three times" according to Brolly. What sort of nonsense is that? How was his ban reduced by the CCCC or more to the point how was it not increased?

Doherty got off lightly enough with the 8 weeks too. He has been exposed as a thug. He did the same thing last year and he clearly hasn't learned his lesson. Brolly again with the usual bo***x "I know Fergal, he presented medals to young lads last week, he put a roof on a house in Dungiven for nothing" Yeah sure he did. And anyway, what has that got to do with it Joe? Doherty is clearly a petulant sort of lad, he needs to learn the hard way.

I feel for Monaghan, I really do. If Mullan and Doherty deserve four week bans then Freeman is in line for this years Nobel Peace Prize. And regardless of what Dick Clerkin did, who is Brolly to come on RTE Radio and try and get a suspension imposed on him. That is the real problem I have with Brolly here. He tries to condone what Doherty did yet tries to make out that Dick stopped just short of murder. How low can a human being go?

Can I just add that I'm going to have trouble sleeping tonight now that I've heard Brolly on Drivetime. If I was Dick Clerkin, I would go to Brolly's house and tear the head off him. Then justice will have been served.

Away and catch yourself on Loyal, Dick Clerkin deserves ever thing that is coming to him, I don't recall the last time I heard a player in the mouth,

Also regarding being kneed in the groin I believe another player being kneed in the groin and the culprit being reprimanded just 4 weeks for this so why just because the player is from Derry is things any different.

Loyal, until this the first match this year Derry have never been labelled as a dirt team. The Meath f the 90s are well known as a dirty team Colm O Rourke that you fawn over included, name a time Joe Brolly has ever been red carded or pulled a dirty stunt in his life and then I'll have respect when you compare him to O Rourke.

Niamh i think you need to do a bit of catching on too - you say Clerkin deserves everything coming to him and yet you suggest Doherty didnt deserve his 8 weeks - or Mullan, i agree with Loyal what he done deserved a ban that meant he wouldnt have played this year again even if Derry made the All Ireland Final.

In an earleir post with MMM you suggested once again that the eye gouging incident is inconclusive - bullshit Niamh its as clear cut as you could possibly want it to be and leaves no doubt - for you to try and dismiss it as a still shot and accusing people of making serious allegations is just silly.

Clerkin may be no saint but there are many like him across Ireland - Brolly has left his postion as analyst on Sunday Game untenable - he cant very well criticise players for actions like these when he has gone out on a wing to not only get Derry guys off but to launch a witch hunt against Clerkin.

I still haven't heard the latest show of Drivetime Sport with Brolly but I don't think I even will, because honest to god if it's the same aul sh*te we've been hearing this last few weeks then my laptop will likely end up in bits at the bottom of the wall across from me! I'm just completely sick of the bull he's coming out with, and almost as bad is the crap coming out from some Derry ones trying to back him up. Seriously like, you'd swear his wife had an affair with Dick such is his contempt for the man and him trying to organise a lynch mob for him! He went on about Doc being "a great man in the community" and "a true gael", while totally running down Dick. If he really said those things that you quoted Loyal then I'm wondering how far will the man go on this! Like will he be producing photos of Fergal in a soup kitchen the next time he's on the Sunday game!? Like really, I fail to see what this has to do with the incidents in Celtic Park on that day, when Doherty was the main aggressor as far as I seen(sorry Niamh but it's true). Doherty may be a great man in the community for all I know, but Dick is too, but sure no chance of Brolly talking about this. The fella has been in a Junior club for years(they're recently promoted to Intermediate with alot of help from Dick though), and as such he's been in line for alot of "special treatment" over the years due to his county status, yet he has an exemplary disciplinary record in club football. But sure he's "nasty" and a "messer", isn't he Joe? He goes through alot of work for the club, a small area that hasn't much resources, and unlike alot of county men you see from small clubs he doesn't forget his roots. Now I'm not saying Doherty isn't a great man in the community, but he'd be doing well to do as much as Dick. But what has all this got to do with what happened on the pitch that day? Exactly, nothing, yet Joe is painting a very onesided picture of the two players. If you just tuned in and heard Joe describing them you'd swear Doherty was a real saint and Dick was a scumbag who wants to destroy all round him.

Do you know what this whole affair is never going to be solved. The thing that pisses me off is worse has happened in other matches in the South but there hasn't been mass threads created about them, no suspensions handed out no backlash from the papers. It is a bloody disgrace Ulster football being targeted again. The match was a dogged affair with a few nasty hits in it, but you'd think there was a few murders committed the way people are getting on their horses about it.

Check out semplegate, the battle of the bogside ain't got nothin on it

You just won €50, whats with the bad humour?

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:You just won €50, whats with the bad humour?

What?

Holy **** so I did!!

You can buy yourself a Meath jersey now!

Can someone post a link to this interview? I'd like to listen to it before commenting.

bald eagle wrote:Can someone post a link to this interview? I'd like to listen to it before commenting.

I already have look back a couple of pages

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