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Post  Jayo Cluxton Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:03 am

Sorry Jim but I reckon Dublin will bate Wexford out the gate - and down Clonliffe Road too - on Sunday. My confidence is borne of history, talent, class and typical Dublin big headedness!
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Post  Jayo Cluxton Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:06 am

Good to see this one catching the imagination of the many knowledgeable posters here... Sleep
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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:17 am

Well I think Wexford will give a good account of themselves. While they haven't beaten anyone as strong as the Dubs have in their run to the final, they've still won three games, and are sure to have drawn confidence from those victories. The 2008 final might also stand to them, or conversely might worry them that little bit extra. I'll stick with the former.

But Dublin should be too strong. It'd be an incredible blow to their ambitions to lose this game. However, there is a small chance it might be approached in the wrong type of mentality, and that is all Wexford will need. But that's not likely under Gilroy.

I'll say Dublin by 3 or 4 but in a manner which is more comfortable than the final scoreline.

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Post  mullins Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:05 pm

Hope EOG Fennell have big games,need these 2 to find their form and bring us up a notch....Can't see anything but Dublin win.......

Best of luck to the minor's should win handy enough,its being a long time since a Dublin Double,on Leinster final day.....
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Post  Grenvile Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:16 pm

mullins wrote:Hope EOG Fennell have big games,need these 2 to find their form and bring us up a notch....Can't see anything but Dublin win.......

Best of luck to the minor's should win handy enough,its being a long time since a Dublin Double,on Leinster final day.....

That's a seriously powerful Minor team the Dubs have. They look more like an U21 side, hot favourites for the All Ireland right now. The Leinster Double looks a done deal at this stage..

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Post  Grenvile Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:32 pm

Dublin Minors hammered Meath by 10 points.. They look way ahead of the rest. Anyone know how Meath lost a game and still got to the Leinster Final?

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Post  bocerty Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:14 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Sorry Jim but I reckon Dublin will bate Wexford out the gate - and down Clonliffe Road too - on Sunday. My confidence is borne of history, talent, class and typical Dublin big headedness!

misplaced confidence Mr Cluxton though it seems it may have rubbed of on the boys in blue as they give the impression they thought al they had to do was turn up!!!!!


A lot of questions being asked of Dublin and they dont have too many answers.
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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:43 pm

Wow! Well that wasn't good from Dublin. The game was there for Wexford. But they let it slip.

Some observations:

1) Bernard Brogan only has one thing on his mind when he gets the ball. More than often, his range is spot on but today, he hit wides and dropped a lot short. Needs to be far more economical with possession. No Colm Cooper, that's for sure.

2) Alan Brogan is still the man. He is all that is good about Dublin and is in my opinion, more key to the side than Bernard.

3) Diarmuid Connolly or Tomas Quinn. Fantastic in the League. But when the championship comes around, they are found out. Is it nerves or do they struggle with the increase in intensity?

4) Eoghan O'Gara and Eammon Fennell are brutes. But not footballers.

5) If Wexford didn't concede the own-goal, they probably would have won.

6) Positives for Dublin. They will now come into the Quarter-Finals slightly under the radar now. Plus McCarthy, Brennan and Alan Brogan did well.

7) Wexford didn't play well but will probably take satisfaction in this moral victory. They will be a nice team to meet in Round 4 of the Qualifiers in my opinion, much like Louth last year.
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Post  The Puke Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:44 pm

pure dirge
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Post  hipster 2 Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:46 pm

brutal game of football but dublin won playing at 50 percent you will see a differnt dublin team from here on
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Post  Grenvile Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:52 pm

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:Wow! Well that wasn't good from Dublin. The game was there for Wexford. But they let it slip.

Some observations:

1) Bernard Brogan only has one thing on his mind when he gets the ball. More than often, his range is spot on but today, he hit wides and dropped a lot short. Needs to be far more economical with possession. No Colm Cooper, that's for sure.

Totally agree. A fantastic player no doubt but not in Cooper's class as some were claiming lately.

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Post  samin12 Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:53 pm

Two also rans- doesnt really matter

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Post  JimWexford Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:56 pm

well see about also rans.
Gutted we let slip first title since 45
We lost not the dubs won but we will surprise and be in last 4 again.
Alan Brogan a joke of a selection should of been Graham Mollloy wexford fulll back or Waters wexford midfielder.

Own goal pure turning point
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Post  Real Kerry Fan Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:33 am

Dublin not impressive but a good few teams won All Irelands not playing well in July. Wexford could have won. Disaster og when on top, proably should have had a penalty in the first half.If Wexford had played a more attacking game I think the Dubs were there for tha taking. Re BB, all players have an off day, as I see The Gooch failed to score against South Kerry yesterday.
Still interesting times ahead. Very Happy
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Post  Jayo Cluxton Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:15 pm

So Bernard Brogan is not allowed have a bad game every five years ....

Very disappointing display. It was almost like we were trying to lose. O'Gara not up to it at all - Gilroy has to give up on this one. Connolly too very disappointing. Thought Bastick had his best game in blue and Alan B was excellent again. McMenamin did ok when he came on - unlike Mossy - another who is not up to C'ship level. Worrying signs in defence when Wexford ran at us too ...

We played like drains against Wexford last year too and should definitelty have lost. I think Dublin have got the stinker out of the way now and will not be as poor again. But Connolly needs to start showing some form quick.
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Post  mullins Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:34 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:So Bernard Brogan is not allowed have a bad game every five years ....

Very disappointing display. It was almost like we were trying to lose. O'Gara not up to it at all - Gilroy has to give up on this one. Connolly too very disappointing. Thought Bastick had his best game in blue and Alan B was excellent again. McMenamin did ok when he came on - unlike Mossy - another who is not up to C'ship level. Worrying signs in defence when Wexford ran at us too ...

We played like drains against Wexford last year too and should definitelty have lost. I think Dublin have got the stinker out of the way now and will not be as poor again. But Connolly needs to start showing some form quick.


Thought EOG done OK yesterday,done very little wrong in my eyes.....When the battle's start he will not be found wanting he might not have the skill level of other's ,but from now on in you need people who would run through wall's to wear that jesey EOG fit's the bill....

As for the match very disapointed with that performance ,it was lack lustre and all over the shop at times...Maybe giller is going horse's for course's i don't know,but we will be big underdogs going into the last 8....Which i suppose will be a good thing for us..

I thought leading up to this match that we were showing no real form, after yesterday that was confirmed,im not sure if you can switch it on and off..We will know soon enough where were at

+Henry- McConnell- Cahill should be close to starting the next day..McCauley-McMahon have 50/50 chance of being fit

Onwards anyway

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Post  bocerty Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:13 am

Jayo Cluxton wrote:So Bernard Brogan is not allowed have a bad game every five years ....

Very disappointing display. It was almost like we were trying to lose. O'Gara not up to it at all - Gilroy has to give up on this one. Connolly too very disappointing. Thought Bastick had his best game in blue and Alan B was excellent again. McMenamin did ok when he came on - unlike Mossy - another who is not up to C'ship level. Worrying signs in defence when Wexford ran at us too ...

We played like drains against Wexford last year too and should definitelty have lost. I think Dublin have got the stinker out of the way now and will not be as poor again. But Connolly needs to start showing some form quick.

totally agree Jayo - the man just doesnt have what it takes at this level did he even get a shot in yesterday???? Wexford will be kicking themselves - in the first half they appeared to have a major mental issue with getting the ball over the half way line, the amount of ball turned over in and around the middle of the field was unreal and they kept doing it. And yet when they let the ball into the forwards they were causing all sorts of bother. If Wexford had not the next score after their goal i think they would have kicked on an won the game.

What i did find interesting was the post match interviews, Gilroy claimed the Dubs knew Wexford were going to play the way they did and yet Alan Brogan contradicted him in his interview claiming it came as a suprise.

I would also agree with Jim that the MOTM choice was a bit suspect while Brogan was easily one of the Dubs better players (though that wasnt entirely difficult) there were better performances from the Wexford men.

There wont be too many teams losing sleep over the Dubs.
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Post  Jayo Cluxton Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:52 am

bocerty wrote:I would also agree with Jim that the MOTM choice was a bit suspect while Brogan was easily one of the Dubs better players (though that wasnt entirely difficult) there were better performances from the Wexford men.

There wont be too many teams losing sleep over the Dubs.

I thought Brosnan was excellent but in fairness the MotM usually goes to the winners and I have no gripe with AB. I thought McCarthy was excellent too and Bastick got no credit for his best display in a Dub shirt.

As for losing sleep that is a good thing. Over the last 10 years I have watched teams deliver performances when I thought they might as well be given Sam now - then they bombed next time out - there are loads. Then I have seen teams play woeful stuff and next thing they are Champs - think Kerry in 2009. Woeful until the QFs and there are many other examples - incl Tyrone!

I know mullins will not criticise a Dublin player but I said I would be critical if called for. So first I'll say that McMenamin (a guy I have criticised in the past) did well when he came on. But EOG is not the deal for me. He is a target man yes - and often the ball finds the target and in fairness he gets on it. Its what happens after that thats the problem. He cannot score which is acceptable-ish - but his awareness and distribution (two key elements of a target man) are, frankly, shocking. We need Connolly to deliver - but he isn't. And while he isn't we can't afford to carry 2 out of 6. EOG has been in the set up for two seasons now and I see NO improvement in his ability, awareness or scoring prowess. AB has improved immeasurably. So there is always hope ... but not always time.
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