Re: Impending General Election....GT's choice.....

**RMDrive** Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:08 pm

Hipster selling dummies here to beat the band but JS isn't falling for any of them and is forcing him out over the sideline ....

**OMAR** Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:26 pm

A Bad day for Meath Fianna Failers - The exit of the once "Golden Boy".
A strange career - He blazed a trail of glory en route to the front bench - Master electoral strategist and central cog in the FF "electoral machine"- A bit of time at middleweight (environment, Education) and managed to solider through without doing himself any harm - Progression just seemed to run out of fuel ain the mid noughties - Never managed to break into the top five - Never had any major hiccups other than leaving a saltless Ireland for a salted Malta.
If things had of stayed good the Road-opening ribbon-cutting might have been popular instead of being a reminder of the stuff we started in the good times.

Anyway with his teacher and minister salary he will be able to afford the entry fee to Pairc Tailteann for him and his jack Russell. Im sure he will be missed by the hoardes of FF meathmen on this forum
Good bye to The "Aston Villa" of Irish Politics.

**mullins** Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:54 pm

Jonsmith wrote:
hipster 2 wrote:i was talking to a german friend a while back and he asked me why did yous irish vote in chancers like these unqualified chancers as he said , this german has 30 people working for him here and he is on his way out of this place , he is totally disgusted at the lack of leadership in this country as he said yous must like getting f,.ked in the ass , and i am not going to educate yous as who would have giving us money but its quite obvious who they are if yous bothered to do a bit of research instead of believiing ths shi.e we are getting fed and yous call yourselves educated

This is almost as good as mullins and the mysterious case of the Legal Garda Assault.. You have the correct answer to shut us all up but you don't won't tell it.. Brilliant.

What i told you was fact/why would i put up a case naming the people that were involved in it..If you wan't to work in law you should know how to find these rulings yourself......I don't see what i could gain from lying..

**Grenvile** Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:58 pm

hipster 2 wrote:well jonsmith i see more rats are leaving the sinking ship , and the answer well why dont you use your fingers your a clever bloke , the government sold us out they do not care the super rich made the mess and now its up to us to fix it only in ireland could this happen in a proper democracy these people are pursued through the courts and face justice ,

In France the people wouldn't take this they'd be out rioting. They'll keep their own feckin' wages high and tax the poor people. No danger of them getting rid of their state cars and drivers. The EU now run Ireland, I'm outraged, lost of sovereignty, I feckin love a bit of sovereignty, so did the boys in 1916, etc etc.. There, I think between us we've covered all the general, useless comments on the economy.
So where else could Ireland get the money? I'd research it myself but sure how would I know when I come across the truth? This might be hard to believe but there are a lot of people out there who would bluff about that kind of thing without having a clue what they're on about......

**Grenvile** Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:17 pm

mullins wrote:
Jonsmith wrote:
hipster 2 wrote:i was talking to a german friend a while back and he asked me why did yous irish vote in chancers like these unqualified chancers as he said , this german has 30 people working for him here and he is on his way out of this place , he is totally disgusted at the lack of leadership in this country as he said yous must like getting f,.ked in the ass , and i am not going to educate yous as who would have giving us money but its quite obvious who they are if yous bothered to do a bit of research instead of believiing ths shi.e we are getting fed and yous call yourselves educated

This is almost as good as mullins and the mysterious case of the Legal Garda Assault.. You have the correct answer to shut us all up but you don't won't tell it.. Brilliant.

What i told you was fact/why would i put up a case naming the people that were involved in it..If you wan't to work in law you should know how to find these rulings yourself......I don't see what i could gain from lying..

Would you do me a huge favour and write me up a little tutorial on how to look up these 'case' thingies you keep on about? It's a totally alien concept to me. And keep it simple I'm not familiar with all this legal jargon..

**hipster 2** Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:51 pm

are you not suppose to be training as a solicitor so maybe doing a bit of research on the internet will help you , ask yourself this question also where do the americans get their money

Guest Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:01 pm

hipster 2 wrote:are you not suppose to be training as a solicitor so maybe doing a bit of research on the internet will help you , ask yourself this question also where do the americans get their money

Impending General Election....GT's choice..... - Page 3 China_map

**hipster 2** Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:14 pm

yes china and they only be to glad to help and would charge less than the ECB and the IMF but then we only ever do what our masters in the uk and europe tell us to do, sickening really but then its quite obvious that this country still has village politics

**Grenvile** Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:29 pm

hipster 2 wrote:yes china and they only be to glad to help and would charge less than the ECB and the IMF but then we only ever do what our masters in the uk and europe tell us to do, sickening really but then its quite obvious that this country still has village politics

Have you spoken to the Chinese government to see what rate they would give? Why would it be better than the Bond Markets and the EU/IMF? This is classic stuff.. "China would be only too glad to help"...

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The Chinese, a great bunch of lads!

**Boxtyeater** Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:41 pm

hipster 2 wrote:i was talking to a german friend a while back and he asked me why did yous irish vote in chancers like these unqualified chancers as he said , this german has 30 people working for him here and he is on his way out of this place ,

Could you enlighten us as to what brought this Hun here in the first place. It wouldn't have been any form of incentivisation would it, the low corporation tax or the likes????
So he's off once the breeze turned against him.....

Any word on the lender issue yet?...I'm not really that mad about Chinese.....

**mullins** Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:48 pm

Jonsmith wrote:
mullins wrote:
Jonsmith wrote:
hipster 2 wrote:i was talking to a german friend a while back and he asked me why did yous irish vote in chancers like these unqualified chancers as he said , this german has 30 people working for him here and he is on his way out of this place , he is totally disgusted at the lack of leadership in this country as he said yous must like getting f,.ked in the ass , and i am not going to educate yous as who would have giving us money but its quite obvious who they are if yous bothered to do a bit of research instead of believiing ths shi.e we are getting fed and yous call yourselves educated

This is almost as good as mullins and the mysterious case of the Legal Garda Assault.. You have the correct answer to shut us all up but you don't won't tell it.. Brilliant.

What i told you was fact/why would i put up a case naming the people that were involved in it..If you wan't to work in law you should know how to find these rulings yourself......I don't see what i could gain from lying..

Would you do me a huge favour and write me up a little tutorial on how to look up these 'case' thingies you keep on about? It's a totally alien concept to me. And keep it simple I'm not familiar with all this legal jargon..

Thats understandable afterall you have only done theory.

**mullins** Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:50 pm

Boxtyeater wrote:
hipster 2 wrote:i was talking to a german friend a while back and he asked me why did yous irish vote in chancers like these unqualified chancers as he said , this german has 30 people working for him here and he is on his way out of this place ,

Could you enlighten us as to what brought this Hun here in the first place. It wouldn't have been any form of incentivisation would it, the low corporation tax or the likes????
So he's off once the breeze turned against him.....

Any word on the lender issue yet?...I'm not really that mad about Chinese.....

I feel sorry for you Sad

Guest Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:58 pm

Not sure if the Chinese would have any interest in lending to Ireland with a favourable rate. The Chinese make up a large part the bond markets who drove up the rates that were far higher even than the EU/IMF loan - It probably be wouldn't be any different if a bilateral loan was considered.

The situation in lending to America is different to ours - If the Chinese didn't lend to them, their biggest trading partner would be screwed and subsequently the Chinese would be screwed too.

The Chinese only give economic aid to countries with resources they can exploit - often in the guise of building infrastructure and not transfer of money. Unless we give them the Corrib gas field they wouldn't have any substantial interest in funding Ireland.

**Grenvile** Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:06 am

mullins wrote:Thats understandable afterall you have only done theory.

Incorrect.
But c'mon mullins share your knowledge with us please. I might go to town tomorrow night and start a row and I'd like to see how I can get away with smacking my arresting officer. I simply don't have the know how to find it, I would never have had reason to look one up before, wouldn't know where to look anyways, do they keep the records of these "case" thingamajigs in the library or what? Or are they online? Sure I suppose everything is online these days with the interweb and silicon chips and such..

**Boxtyeater** Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:14 am

mullins wrote:[I feel sorry for you

Touching...don't lose any sleep though, I've been through it all before....

**mullins** Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:20 am

Jonsmith wrote:
mullins wrote:Thats understandable afterall you have only done theory.

Incorrect.
But c'mon mullins share your knowledge with us please. I might go to town tomorrow night and start a row and I'd like to see how I can get away with smacking my arresting officer. I simply don't have the know how to find it, I would never have had reason to look one up before, wouldn't know where to look anyways, do they keep the records of these "case" thingamajigs in the library or what? Or are they online? Sure I suppose everything is online these days with the interweb and silicon chips and such..

jon i don't really understand law,well maybe only getting away with it-but as far as i know their doesn't be that many judgements in any year,so it would take a genius to find 1

DPP v. Byrne [1974] I.R.
DPP v. Wallace was -

The State (McLoughlin) v. Judge Shannon [1948] 1 IR 439 and The People (Attorney General) v. Blogh [1958] IR 91.-

these were the points used to win this case ,maybe that helps you,back to study

now

**mullins** Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:22 am

Boxtyeater wrote:
mullins wrote:[I feel sorry for you

Touching...don't lose any sleep though, I've been through it all before....

but nothing like it is now..im sure the footsoldiers will jump ship soon enough..boxty in a blue shirt Very Happy

**Jayo Cluxton** Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:23 am

Jonsmith wrote:
The Chinese, a great bunch of lads!

Class JS - class! Razz

**Jayo Cluxton** Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:29 am

Its all so simple really. All the answers are here on this thread .... Rolling Eyes

**Grenvile** Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:43 am

mullins wrote:

jon i don't really understand law,well maybe only getting away with it-but as far as i know their doesn't be that many judgements in any year,so it would take a genius to find 1

DPP v. Byrne [1974] I.R.
DPP v. Wallace was -

The State (McLoughlin) v. Judge Shannon [1948] 1 IR 439 and The People (Attorney General) v. Blogh [1958] IR 91.-

these were the points used to win this case ,maybe that helps you,back to now

There are a huge amount of case reports every year. The cases referred to in the ruling are of no interest to me. It doesn't exist mullins, give it up man! Your "getting away with things" obviously isn't achieved through an ability to spin a convincing story on the witness stand anyway! Razz

**Jayo Cluxton** Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:37 am

Economics is a very simple thing made very complicated by people .... to justify their existence. For years the world (as we knew it) traded on barter etc. There was even a time when one good 'club' could earn you a wife.

Now we have bond markets and bond holders - who (apparently) must be honooured more than a Hindu bride. But it amazes me that an entity as big as the EU is so beholden to this stuff - less so Eire.

Some would say fook em all - we can do it ourselves - and hoooray for that. Except we don't make cars, TVs, toasters, or radios or even industrial machinery .. so we enter the real world ... economy.

Sure we can box more clever ... and we may do. I look at Norway and think .... hmmm

**mullins** Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:09 am

Jonsmith wrote:
mullins wrote:

jon i don't really understand law,well maybe only getting away with it-but as far as i know their doesn't be that many judgements in any year,so it would take a genius to find 1

DPP v. Byrne [1974] I.R.
DPP v. Wallace was -

The State (McLoughlin) v. Judge Shannon [1948] 1 IR 439 and The People (Attorney General) v. Blogh [1958] IR 91.-

these were the points used to win this case ,maybe that helps you,back to now

I can't recall

There are a huge amount of case reports every year. The cases referred to in the ruling are of no interest to me. It doesn't exist mullins, give it up man! Your "getting away with things" obviously isn't achieved through an ability to spin a convincing story on the witness stand anyway!

**mullins** Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:12 am

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**mullins** Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:17 am

**Boxtyeater** Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:54 pm

Looka Dumbo..stick you're funny arse picckys up your ganseys...when the rollie dollie, oaps' and "Hand-out"-monies were exceeding 10% were you whinging.. Suspect

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