Kildare Denied By Ref

mid-mon man wrote:Shouldn't that title say umpires instead of ref mullins?

What the fook could Pat have done about the square ball goal or Kildare's point that wasn't given(These seem to be the main talking points)? Both these decisions should have been called by the umpires, that's what they're there for. From where McEneaney was on the pitch how could he have called those accurately without the help of the umpires. In fact they weren't even Pat's usual umpires that he usually brings, but intercounty refs who were appointed! He consulted with them on Coulter's goal, and they were adamant that it was a goal, so why wouldn't Pat take their word given they were right beside the incident?

No need to be calling McEneaney's integrity into question, it wasn't his best day at the office by any means but this talk of him cheating Kildare out of the game is complete bull.

mid-mon man wrote:Shouldn't that title say umpires instead of ref mullins?

What the fook could Pat have done about the square ball goal or Kildare's point that wasn't given(These seem to be the main talking points)? Both these decisions should have been called by the umpires, that's what they're there for. From where McEneaney was on the pitch how could he have called those accurately without the help of the umpires. In fact they weren't even Pat's usual umpires that he usually brings, but intercounty refs who were appointed! He consulted with them on Coulter's goal, and they were adamant that it was a goal, so why wouldn't Pat take their word given they were right beside the incident?

No need to be calling McEneaney's integrity into question, it wasn't his best day at the office by any means but this talk of him cheating Kildare out of the game is complete bull.

bluearmy1 wrote:Yup, that nordie clique is called Down. Danny Hughes ran riot all over the pitch. Coulter roasted all around him. Rafferty and McKernan surged forward from the back unchecked. Kalum King and Peter Fitzpatrick were immense in midfield.

If you're going to miss free kicks that you could throw over the bar forget about blaming refs.

Kildare's big men didn't show.

It's terrible that I'm being forced to criticise Kildare so much they were fantastic today neither team deserved to lose but undoubtedly the better football was played by Down and they showed just as much heart as Kildare.

"Down took control of the game when it needed to be taken control of" - Mickey Harte. Man who knows what he is talking about.

"They played with greater desire than Kildare did. They made their own luck." Kildare were robbed end of story the best team lost..

bluearmy1 wrote:Just watching the match again here.

-Anyone want to blame Hugh McQuillan for dissent which basically handed Clarke an easy point in the 40th minute?

-After Kildare hit the post for their goal chance they missed a pretty easy shot at a point.

-Far too many steps taken for Kildare's goal. Whether or not Callahan being fouled dubious enough.

-Danny Hughes running all over the place and no Kildare players anywhere near him

-Down winning majority of dirty ball around midfield

-Down gradually working the ball towards goal but are regularly scoring from distance

-Kildare coming close to scores. Hitting the post, putting shots wide. Whether slightly or by a lot that's called missing. Down are putting them over.

Well there's a few small things that affected the game apart from refereeing decisions. That's football. Deal with it.

mid-mon man wrote:Shouldn't that title say umpires instead of ref mullins?

What the fook could Pat have done about the square ball goal or Kildare's point that wasn't given(These seem to be the main talking points)? Both these decisions should have been called by the umpires, that's what they're there for. From where McEneaney was on the pitch how could he have called those accurately without the help of the umpires. In fact they weren't even Pat's usual umpires that he usually brings, but intercounty refs who were appointed! He consulted with them on Coulter's goal, and they were adamant that it was a goal, so why wouldn't Pat take their word given they were right beside the incident?

No need to be calling McEneaney's integrity into question, it wasn't his best day at the office by any means but this talk of him cheating Kildare out of the game is complete bull.

patrique wrote:Alot of ifs.

IF the goal had been disallowed would McCumisky have fisted an insurance point or would he have crossed for Benny to go fort goal?

Would Down have pressed on instead of sitting back at the end.

McEnaney, not for the first time, was awful but you have no idea how things would have worked out if the goal had been disallowed.

Dr.Shephard wrote:

mid-mon man wrote:Shouldn't that title say umpires instead of ref mullins?

What the fook could Pat have done about the square ball goal or Kildare's point that wasn't given(These seem to be the main talking points)? Both these decisions should have been called by the umpires, that's what they're there for. From where McEneaney was on the pitch how could he have called those accurately without the help of the umpires. In fact they weren't even Pat's usual umpires that he usually brings, but intercounty refs who were appointed! He consulted with them on Coulter's goal, and they were adamant that it was a goal, so why wouldn't Pat take their word given they were right beside the incident?

No need to be calling McEneaney's integrity into question, it wasn't his best day at the office by any means but this talk of him cheating Kildare out of the game is complete bull.

The umpires have absolutely no authority to call a square ball. Referees are informed at meetings that it is their decision and theirs alone to make. they are discouraged from even consulting the umpires.

mid-mon man wrote:

Dr.Shephard wrote:

mid-mon man wrote:Shouldn't that title say umpires instead of ref mullins?

What the fook could Pat have done about the square ball goal or Kildare's point that wasn't given(These seem to be the main talking points)? Both these decisions should have been called by the umpires, that's what they're there for. From where McEneaney was on the pitch how could he have called those accurately without the help of the umpires. In fact they weren't even Pat's usual umpires that he usually brings, but intercounty refs who were appointed! He consulted with them on Coulter's goal, and they were adamant that it was a goal, so why wouldn't Pat take their word given they were right beside the incident?

No need to be calling McEneaney's integrity into question, it wasn't his best day at the office by any means but this talk of him cheating Kildare out of the game is complete bull.

The umpires have absolutely no authority to call a square ball. Referees are informed at meetings that it is their decision and theirs alone to make. they are discouraged from even consulting the umpires.

Didn't realise this was the case, seems very silly when the umpires are clearly in a better position to call it with the ref being out the field. Obviously the ref has complete authority over all others on the field but the umpires are there to advise in such situations, or at least they should be.

North Side Gael wrote:

mid-mon man wrote:

Dr.Shephard wrote:

mid-mon man wrote:Shouldn't that title say umpires instead of ref mullins?

What the fook could Pat have done about the square ball goal or Kildare's point that wasn't given(These seem to be the main talking points)? Both these decisions should have been called by the umpires, that's what they're there for. From where McEneaney was on the pitch how could he have called those accurately without the help of the umpires. In fact they weren't even Pat's usual umpires that he usually brings, but intercounty refs who were appointed! He consulted with them on Coulter's goal, and they were adamant that it was a goal, so why wouldn't Pat take their word given they were right beside the incident?

No need to be calling McEneaney's integrity into question, it wasn't his best day at the office by any means but this talk of him cheating Kildare out of the game is complete bull.

The umpires have absolutely no authority to call a square ball. Referees are informed at meetings that it is their decision and theirs alone to make. they are discouraged from even consulting the umpires.

Didn't realise this was the case, seems very silly when the umpires are clearly in a better position to call it with the ref being out the field. Obviously the ref has complete authority over all others on the field but the umpires are there to advise in such situations, or at least they should be.

I knew this, clear madness about time the gaa started courses for linesmen and umpires or referee assistants (which is what they should be called) reason being they should be consulted at any point the should be able to call to the refs attention for a free the same as in soccer, and yet again in this modern era about time video technology was used, especially at these big games where people have paid big money, i feel for kildare i really do but im glad to see an ulster team in the final at the same time.