Kerry - Worst fans in Ireland

Can any of the dubs explain why there was such a poor turnout at the U21 AI final?

Jesus it was an U21 game - it was also a Saturday evening and the hurlers played Limerick the following day. Big swing if Donegal bring a few hundred - lets face it they don't see many finals at any level - thats the truth.

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Jesus it was an U21 game - it was also a Saturday evening and the hurlers played Limerick the following day. Big swing if Donegal bring a few hundred - lets face it they don't see many finals at any level - thats the truth.

What's the difference between your weak argument and the Kerry mans? And the cheap pop about Donegal and finals? Pathetic. Dublin are starved of success and yet less than a thousand fans showed up to an AI final. Then you have the audacity to criticise other counties support? The Dublin U21 team was let down by the so-called fans of Dublin football. Shame on them and shame on you for not seeing it.

p.s. it was a Saturday evening in Donegal too you know.

The whole thread has f**k all to do with Dublin at all. I am proposing that Kerry are the worst fans in the country because of the disgracefully low crowds they bring to games given their much vaunted history, success and supposed love of the game. They eat, drink and sleep football there apparently - they just don't bother supporting their team.

What the f*** has the turnout at an U21 game go to do with that - f**king nothing - thats what. I am talking about support for senior intercounty teams here - its simple really ... even for slow people. But don't miss an opportunity to have the usual pop at Dublin tho' - regardless of the facts regarding attendances at Croke Park for the last 5/6 years and much longer. Usual population bo***x trotted out even though half the county are country people working here. Gets to be a pain in the h**e tbh. If you want to debate the thread please do - but don't go quoting a shaggin' U21 game.

As for the topic - I feel for real Kerry fans ... and the team. They deserve better than they get.

I would say the "worse* fans (if you can calla fan that) are the Kilkenny fans they turn up in even smaller numbers.
Intercounty, club games are all the same in one respect the further you go the more support you gain, is that not true of all things in life.
Another aspect this year is money - do people have to it spend, I know we are only going to one of Wexford opening round games (V Dubs) due to financial implications when you are hauling 6 (and possibly 8 depending on nephews/nieces) to games it gets expensive.
Still think saturday evening games aren't as family friendly as the top brass think they are, if you have to travel 2 plus hours then you can add at least another 1 for leaving the ground/town due to traffic makes it very late for kids to get home.
Sat evening games suit two age groups really single people and couples with no kids or grown up kids to my mind don't cater for the 5-15 age group at all

Can i put another spin on this thread 6 counties involved on sunday total population of the 6= 800,000....20,000 attend the 3 games .As for Kerry Jc why change the habit of a lifetime they always arrive in September....

My memories Dublin v Kerry was the little roar from the Hogan when they were doing the business...Nightmares from a young age

Jayo Cluxton wrote:The whole thread has f**k all to do with Dublin at all. I am proposing that Kerry are the worst fans in the country because of the disgracefully low crowds they bring to games given their much vaunted history, success and supposed love of the game. They eat, drink and sleep football there apparently - they just don't bother supporting their team.

What the f*** has the turnout at an U21 game go to do with that - f**king nothing - thats what. I am talking about support for senior intercounty teams here - its simple really ... even for slow people. But don't miss an opportunity to have the usual pop at Dublin tho' - regardless of the facts regarding attendances at Croke Park for the last 5/6 years and much longer. Usual population bo***x trotted out even though half the county are country people working here. Gets to be a pain in the h**e tbh. If you want to debate the thread please do - but don't go quoting a shaggin' U21 game.

As for the topic - I feel for real Kerry fans ... and the team. They deserve better than they get.

So this is your response? You imply that I am slow and throw out a few curses. Is that supposed to impress me?

Any county that cannot muster more than 1000 fans for an all Ireland final at U21 level has no right to be slaggin off ANY other counties support. No amount of bluster and noise will change that.

jaysis,no wonder we get f**k all discussion on here.whatever the person who starts the thread says goes?jayo,all anyone is doing is giving their opinion.in football i'd say that kerry and dublin have close to the worst support across all age groups...but,i dont think that would change if any other county was in the same situation.dublin and kerry always get picked on because kerry are so successful and dublin have a massive population.i dont think it's fair to call any set of supporters the worst,especially if you arent willing to let someone give their opinion on who they think are the worst.

there is no u21 league in dublin they run off a shambolic championship at the end of the year so people dont have a draw to it also for a long time dublin did not even enter a team into it , also the dublin minor hurlers were playing and there was a full round of underage fixtures that saturday and them game s dont start till 3.30 if they had called these off you would have had a few more dubs there

Someone wave this for me

GAA-Fan wrote:

Someone wave this for me

No way am i waving the flour bags flag

Jayo Cluxton wrote:The whole thread has f**k all to do with Dublin at all. I am proposing that Kerry are the worst fans in the country because of the disgracefully low crowds they bring to games given their much vaunted history, success and supposed love of the game. They eat, drink and sleep football there apparently - they just don't bother supporting their team.

What the f*** has the turnout at an U21 game go to do with that - f**king nothing - thats what. I am talking about support for senior intercounty teams here - its simple really ... even for slow people. But don't miss an opportunity to have the usual pop at Dublin tho' - regardless of the facts regarding attendances at Croke Park for the last 5/6 years and much longer. Usual population bo***x trotted out even though half the county are country people working here. Gets to be a pain in the h**e tbh. If you want to debate the thread please do - but don't go quoting a shaggin' U21 game.

As for the topic - I feel for real Kerry fans ... and the team. They deserve better than they get.

Jeanie Mac, there are so many stars in that post I'm nearly blinded!

My caps lock was stuck on 8 - whats the problem? Still think this is a very valid thread but what the f**k would I know .........

Jayo Cluxton wrote:My caps lock was stuck on 8 - whats the problem? Still think this is a very valid thread but what the f**k would I know .........

I think Mayo fans will give up going to finals soon and then they will win.

Look guys, think about it here, Kerry are playing a munster 1/4 final in sempal stadium against tipp its a game kerry would always win why pay 25 euro a ticket to see it? then play cork another 30 euro and then a final fo 35-40 euro 2 of the games kerry would be expected to win the 3rd being cork different situation. then you have the all ireland for the usual kerry fan 3 games at a cost of 35-50-70 euro a ticket thats 6 games for kerry costing the kerry supporter in or around €250 per championship season per person, thats alot of money so in fairness jayo ya have to respect that the kerry fan has to select games carefully not to mention the travel cost for the kerry man, train to dublin 70 euro petrol 40ish maybe.

As for the Dublin fans i think they get the bow for best fans but worst sportsmanship and respect awards, the hill is a joke when dublin are playing !!!!

GAAGenious wrote:Look guys, think about it here, Kerry are playing a munster 1/4 final in sempal stadium against tipp its a game kerry would always win why pay 25 euro a ticket to see it? then play cork another 30 euro and then a final fo 35-40 euro 2 of the games kerry would be expected to win the 3rd being cork different situation. then you have the all ireland for the usual kerry fan 3 games at a cost of 35-50-70 euro a ticket thats 6 games for kerry costing the kerry supporter in or around €250 per championship season per person, thats alot of money so in fairness jayo ya have to respect that the kerry fan has to select games carefully not to mention the travel cost for the kerry man, train to dublin 70 euro petrol 40ish maybe.

As for the Dublin fans i think they get the bow for best fans but worst sportsmanship and respect awards, the hill is a joke when dublin are playing !!!!

Kerry are the best GAA team but could be argued they put the least [financially] into the GAA. Whereas you have counties being supported by the thousands each week who eventually end up winning nothing.

GAA-Fan wrote:

Kerry are the best GAA team but could be argued they put the least [financially] into the GAA. Whereas you have counties being supported by the thousands each week who eventually end up winning nothing.

I think in a roundabout way this is the argument Jayo is trying to get across. At face value it seems fair enough, dunno why people are bringing the Dubs support into it. Kerry folk generally only tend to bother for All-Ireland Finals and (home) Munster Finals. They'll be the first to tell you this themselves.

Yep lads thats the nub of it - fair play Moss, see the point as it is trying to be made and not lazily distort. Imagine Old Trafford half empty for games v Wigan, Hull, Burnley, etc, etc....

Kerry have to not win it for a decade at least for the Kerry people to really appreciate what they have.

mossbags wrote:

GAA-Fan wrote:

Kerry are the best GAA team but could be argued they put the least [financially] into the GAA. Whereas you have counties being supported by the thousands each week who eventually end up winning nothing.

I think in a roundabout way this is the argument Jayo is trying to get across. At face value it seems fair enough, dunno why people are bringing the Dubs support into it. Kerry folk generally only tend to bother for All-Ireland Finals and (home) Munster Finals. They'll be the first to tell you this themselves.

Will have a full house for Munster semi-final on June 6th.

I kind of agree with JC on this one actually. I was at last years All Ireland final when Kerry beat Cork. It was amazing to see the number of Kerry 'supporters' (sitting in the best seats too i may add) who were there but hadn't even as much as a green and gold head band with them, in fact only for their accent and the fact they were up roaring and clapping every time Kerry scored you wouldn't have known were the were from.

That might sound a bit trivial but it appeared very odd to me, what was more amusing was the fact that when the final whistle went there was more Kerry people heading for the exits than on to the field which is were i would have been headed had my county won the all ireland irrespective of how many times they had won it.

It made me wonder just how much the game actually means to the people of Kerry - and how much they appear to take things for granted in an almost arrogant fashion.

Talking about attendances i always remember the replayed semi final between Cork and Kerry in 2008 the Kerry turnout that day was dismal too so they cant just say it was down to playing Tipperary.

bocerty wrote: what was more amusing was the fact that when the final whistle went there was more Kerry people heading for the exits than on to the field

I remember when the ref blew up for the replay in 2000 and I was gutted so I grabbed me bird and headed straight for the exits. I was feeling fairly low and as if watching Galway lose the final wasn't bad enough I was also remonstrating with myself in my head that a better man would have at least stayed to acknowledge a great Kerry side as they received their deserved trophy. Lo and behold I turn into the Jones Rd and what do I see and hear everywhere?! Kerry, Kerry men,women and children, hundreds of them all the way up to the North circular. These people must have been leaving with ten minutes left to play as I had literally left at the final whistle and I left in hurry. Couldn't believe it. The least your county team deserves when they win the All-Ireland is a cheer or two on seeing them lift the trophy. Fook, just to see them do that, isn't that the whole point?

The GAA probably aren't too worried that last Sunday's Leinster football championship double-header in Portlaoise drew a combined 7,122 fans from Meath, Offaly, Longford and Louth. Underwhelming attendances are a fact of life at this, and certain other, stages of the championship.
Despite the clichéd depiction of GAA fans as a uniquely fanatical bunch who follow their teams through thick and thin, the figures tell a different tale. In fact there is hardly another sporting competition with such a staggering disparity between attendances at different times of the year. The hardcore GAA fan is dwarfed by the legion of sunshine supporters whose loyalty kicks in once September hoves into view.

Examine these unimpressive attendance figures for example. 3,617, 9,345, 6,800. They are the crowds which watched Kerry's three games in the qualifier series last year, against Longford in Longford, Sligo in Tralee and Antrim in Tullamore.

You could camouflage the reality represented by these figures with some folksy bullshit about 'canny Kerry hoors waiting for the All-Ireland'. Or you could observe that the actual number of Kingdom fans who support their team in every championship match is in the low thousands, something which casts doubt on the perpetual assertion that Kerry is 'a football-mad county'. Under 5,000 fans watched the All-Ireland champions against Tipperary two weeks ago, which suggests that the problem doesn't lie in the qualifier format.

It's not just Kerry fans who pick and choose their games. Last year, Cork footballers may have ended the championship in front of 82,286 people at Croke Park but they began it in front of a crowd of 3,504 in Dungarvan. There are other figures which catch the eye too. For all the excitement Mick O'Dwyer has brought to Wicklow, the county could only scare up 4,025 fans for their third qualifying round win over Down in Aughrim.

A match for a place in the football quarter-final between the traditionally strong and populous counties of Galway and Donegal drew just 8,133 people to Sligo. Wexford's Leinster SHC opener against Offaly enticed a disappointing 6,262 to Wexford Park.
Once we hit the final stages of the championship, things became vastly different. The Cork-Donegal, Tyrone-Kildare football quarter-final double-header drew 49,761 to Croke Park and the two football semi-finals both drew over 50,000.

Yet, though these are impressive figures, it's pretty clear that when someone describes himself as a supporter of his county GAA team, he means something very different from an Englishman who says he supports his local soccer team. A well-supported team like Manchester City or Newcastle remains a well-supported team, even if it plummets down the divisions. By contrast, the army that followed Wexford to glory in 1996 disbanded when times got tough.
The question is: to what extent are you a real supporter if you see a team live two or three times a year and find better things to do on the dozen or so other times they are playing? You can buy as many replica shirts as you want, tattoo your sheep in the county colours and develop repetitive strain injury from banging a bodhrán, but the fact remains that showing up three times a year hardly denotes obsession.
That idea that the average inter-county fan is consumed by passionate love for their native hearth is just a piece of PR hype. In reality, most of the crowd at the big games are there because those games are big national occasions, like a rugby international or Oxegen, and because Croke Park is a destination venue. The GAA have tapped into that market but the support is largely casual in nature.

There are glorious exceptions. Any Leinster football championship match involving Dublin at Croke Park can't fail to draw less than 50,000. The Ulster football championship is well supported throughout; last Sunday saw 18,159 people attend the Tyrone-Antrim game, a figure barely beaten by the combined attendance of the two Munster and three Leinster games played already. And today's Cork-Tipperary game will confirm the Munster hurling championship's status as the one provincial competition which never sees a bad crowd.

Yet the fact remains that it is a rare GAA fan who goes to see his county play more than half a dozen times a year. This has nothing do with club commitments; it's precisely the man who's involved at club level who'll stir himself to make a National League match. And the cost of attending games has little to do with it either -- this phenomenon persisted all through the Tiger years.
Something important is being masked by the colossal crowds of August and September. The GAA's inter-county support is a mile wide. But it's an inch deep

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JimWexford wrote:too long to read

I'd imagine the salient points that were the intent of Mullins to relate, specifically with regards to this thread title, would be based on the following extract.

''Examine these unimpressive attendance figures for example. 3,617, 9,345, 6,800. They are the crowds which watched Kerry's three games in the qualifier series last year, against Longford in Longford, Sligo in Tralee and Antrim in Tullamore.

You could camouflage the reality represented by these figures with some folksy bullshit about 'canny Kerry hoors waiting for the All-Ireland'. Or you could observe that the actual number of Kingdom fans who support their team in every championship match is in the low thousands, something which casts doubt on the perpetual assertion that Kerry is 'a football-mad county'. Under 5,000 fans watched the All-Ireland champions against Tipperary two weeks ago, which suggests that the problem doesn't lie in the qualifier format.''