Maybe this year ......

Almost makes me want Dublin to win the all-Ireland. Almost...

Jayo, if I was editor of the Independent I'd have you writing a GAA column every week-well done!

Of course, I'd have to get you to replace Dublin with Mayo, Leinster with Connaught and 15 years with 59

Wah, Wah, no Sam in 15 years, poor yous!

Try not having won a bloody provincial in 22 years, honestly lads, ye don't know you're living!

Good piece all the same, but it's hard to pity a county that's 2nd in the Sam roll of honour! Dublin will probably win another before long anyway.

Very good Jayo! I have to admit that if I didn't have to come in contact with Dublin supporters anymore I would want them to win if we were out.

Certainly the Dubs bring a lot to the championship (well, the June/July part of it anyway!). There is nothing that beats the atmosphere that you get when the Hill is rocking and the Dubs are firing, and that sense of expectation is palpable. We in other counties critcise them for the hype, for imagining that players like Jayo, Whelan, Redmond and the likes are among the upper echelon of stars, yet love the satisfaction we get from disproving such myths.

Yes indeed, love them or loath them, the summer wouldn't be the same without the Dubs. Unfortunately for them though, despite a levelling out of standards, I don't see them winning the All-Ireland this year.

we wont win sam this year tommy but dublin has a lot better players over the years than tyrone ever had and you just mentioned 3 of them

hipster wrote:we wont win sam this year tommy but dublin has a lot better players over the years than tyrone ever had and you just mentioned 3 of them

Not in the last 30 years Hipster. In fact, it isn't even close in that period. Before that, fair enough.

i would give you the last ten years but not the last 30 fact

hipster wrote:i would give you the last ten years but not the last 30 fact

Really Hipster, what would be your best Dublin side over the last 30 years?

well we won 2 AIs and competed in another 2 or 3 and numerous leinsters we won and league titles and all this before the back door devalued the AI championship .

Thomas Clarke wrote:

hipster wrote:we wont win sam this year tommy but dublin has a lot better players over the years than tyrone ever had and you just mentioned 3 of them

Not in the last 30 years Hipster. In fact, it isn't even close in that period. Before that, fair enough.

My god cheap shot where were tyrone in the last 30 years...dont make me laugh

hipster wrote:well we won 2 AIs and competed in another 2 or 3 and numerous leinsters we won and league titles and all this before the back door devalued the AI championship .

Yeah, Tyrone won all those as well (3 All-Irelands - 2 other finals, 2 NFLs, 9 Ulsters, 4 U21, 4 minors), but that wasn't the point. The debate, that you brought up, was that Dublin had better players, which I disagree with. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that Dublin's lack of success in the last 30 years has been down to a lack of top quality players, particularly midfielders and forwards. Lots of good players, but no top drawer players like Peter Canavan, Stevie O'Neill, Eugene McKenna, Sean Cavanagh or Frank McGuigan.

Thomas Clarke wrote:

hipster wrote:well we won 2 AIs and competed in another 2 or 3 and numerous leinsters we won and league titles and all this before the back door devalued the AI championship .

Yeah, Tyrone won all those as well (3 All-Irelands - 2 other finals, 2 NFLs, 9 Ulsters, 4 U21, 4 minors), but that wasn't the point. The debate, that you brought up, was that Dublin had better players, which I disagree with. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that Dublin's lack of success in the last 30 years has been down to a lack of top quality players, particularly midfielders and forwards. Lots of good players, but no top drawer players like Peter Canavan, Stevie O'Neill, Eugene McKenna, Sean Cavanagh or Frank McGuigan.

Hipster wum alert..ignore

yes like barney rock brian mullins dessie farrell paul clarke jim roynane sherlock all as good and better than you say tommy c but this is going no where we agree to differ

hipster wrote:yes like barney rock brian mullins dessie farrell paul clarke jim roynane sherlock all as good and better than you say tommy c but this is going no where we agree to differ

Mick Deegan.

one of my favourite players royal girl

hipster wrote:one of my favourite players royal girl

He's a great man all right Hipster

at both gaelic and soccer he could play in slippers

hipster wrote:at both gaelic and soccer he could play in slippers

So I get told regularly!

hipster wrote:yes like barney rock brian mullins dessie farrell paul clarke jim roynane sherlock all as good and better than you say tommy c but this is going no where we agree to differ

Brian Mullins was a great but done after his accident, and Farrell and Rock were good but not great, while Clarke, Royane and Sherlock were fairly good players at best. The players I named were all recently listed in the top 125 players of all time in the Independent, most of them in the top 50. Brian McGuigan & Brian Dooher were also on that list. But as I said earlier, we in other counties love the hype and myth, because it makes our victories all the sweeter.

I'm not winding anyone up Mullins, I genuinely think that Dublin have not produced enough top players in the last 30 years, but let's agree to differ on this one.

is he a relation

hipster wrote:is he a relation

Nope but I'm good friends with Michael Deegan, his son. The slagging is unreal.

well his da is a legend and a gentleman and thomas clarke who cares about them stupid lists

He is indeed Hispter he is indeed...