Mike resigns as Clare manager

SamiPremier08 wrote:good or bad for Clare?

good in my opinion as it is what the players wanted and they should finally be happy now :|Ger O'Loughlin looks like he's capable of doing the job, but I still can't see Clare improving that much for next year.

RMDrive wrote:

SamiPremier08 wrote:good or bad for Clare?

good in my opinion as it is what the players wanted and they should finally be happy now :|Ger O'Loughlin looks like he's capable of doing the job, but I still can't see Clare improving that much for next year.

Good for Clare but bad for the association. No matter how you butter it up, this is players picking their manager. Accross all sports this is a bad idea. There may have been legitimate reasons in this case why the players were unhappy but the next time the reasons mightn't be so legitimate.

SamiPremier08 wrote:

RMDrive wrote:

SamiPremier08 wrote:good or bad for Clare?

good in my opinion as it is what the players wanted and they should finally be happy now :|Ger O'Loughlin looks like he's capable of doing the job, but I still can't see Clare improving that much for next year.

Good for Clare but bad for the association. No matter how you butter it up, this is players picking their manager. Accross all sports this is a bad idea. There may have been legitimate reasons in this case why the players were unhappy but the next time the reasons mightn't be so legitimate.

agree RMD, we've seen it with Cork and now Clare - the board should pick the manager and the players should respect that and get on with it.

clash-of-da-ash wrote:I didn't see them complaining when they got to the munster final in 2008. The GAA seems to be turning into soccer, when a team has a bad year they sack the manager. Maybe the players aren't good enough or not putting in enough effort, managers have turned into scapegoats these days in the GAA.

RMDrive wrote:

SamiPremier08 wrote:good or bad for Clare?

good in my opinion as it is what the players wanted and they should finally be happy now :|Ger O'Loughlin looks like he's capable of doing the job, but I still can't see Clare improving that much for next year.

Good for Clare but bad for the association. No matter how you butter it up, this is players picking their manager. Accross all sports this is a bad idea. There may have been legitimate reasons in this case why the players were unhappy but the next time the reasons mightn't be so legitimate.

Boxtyeater wrote:

RMDrive wrote:

SamiPremier08 wrote:good or bad for Clare?

good in my opinion as it is what the players wanted and they should finally be happy now :|Ger O'Loughlin looks like he's capable of doing the job, but I still can't see Clare improving that much for next year.

Good for Clare but bad for the association. No matter how you butter it up, this is players picking their manager. Accross all sports this is a bad idea. There may have been legitimate reasons in this case why the players were unhappy but the next time the reasons mightn't be so legitimate.

I beleive I'm quoting RMD but IMO it's a bad day for Clare and as you said, a bad day for the games in general...
It's not the business of players to like their manager/management, it's their business to put their heads down and graft..now that comment is open to criticsm and ridicule, but the old axiom should still apply...Managers manage, workers work, players play etc...
If Clare had taken the current option of being the so-called masters of their own destinies, they would have won nothing...
Gerlock, MikeMac and Considine put them on the high road that they were'nt used to and hence, the only way, for them, is down....I think it's fair to say that they are back where they were,,,pretenders,,along with Limerick and Waterford...

mossbags wrote:[
Utter cock.
Thats probably the only term that would give any justice whatsoever to the comments posted above.
''Good for Clare but bad for the association. No matter how you butter it up, this is players picking their manager''
No matter how you butter it up whats good for the hurlers of Clare who's peak hurling years, like all athletes, are short, by dint of mother nature, is good for the GAA, which dont forget stands for the Gaelic Athletic Association and NOT grab all ass, which seems to be the motive by too many career club and county managers this weather. Mike Mac managed to turn a team who were potential dark horses for all-ireland glory in 2008 to utter no hope's in 2009, and fook knows what in 2010 his total contempt for the league, not to mention his utter ignorance of the talent rising through at u-21 is what cost him, only a fool cannot see this. The only competitive game they won this year was a relegation play off from the all ireland itself, and he got very well paid for it in the process. If you are from a county whose players are happy with s**t like this, than fair enough, but if you'd like a bit more from your county than any sympathy for the likes of Mike Mac, is clearly misplaced, as the people who actually give a fook, the players, are ultimately the ones revieving the thin end of the wedge when, well past their sell by date cowboys like this, are their elected mentors.

mossbags wrote:
Utter cock.
Thats probably the only term that would give any justice whatsoever to the comments posted above.
''Good for Clare but bad for the association. No matter how you butter it up, this is players picking their manager''
No matter how you butter it up whats good for the hurlers of Clare who's peak hurling years, like all athletes, are short, by dint of mother nature, is good for the GAA, which dont forget stands for the Gaelic Athletic Association and NOT grab all ass, which seems to be the motive by too many career club and county managers this weather. Mike Mac managed to turn a team who were potential dark horses for all-ireland glory in 2008 to utter no hope's in 2009, and fook knows what in 2010 his total contempt for the league, not to mention his utter ignorance of the talent rising through at u-21 is what cost him, only a fool cannot see this. The only competitive game they won this year was a relegation play off from the all ireland itself, and he got very well paid for it in the process. If you are from a county whose players are happy with s**t like this, than fair enough, but if you'd like a bit more from your county than any sympathy for the likes of Mike Mac, is clearly misplaced, as the people who actually give a fook, the players, are ultimately the ones revieving the thin end of the wedge when, well past their sell by date cowboys like this, are their elected mentors.