Qualifiers Round 1 2012

**Loyal2TheRoyal** Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:08 pm

I assume the draw will be made on Sunday - barring draws, we should all 16 teams in the hat. We know 13 already:

Westmeath
Louth
Wicklow
Laois
Longford
Cavan
Armagh
Antrim
Fermanagh
Tipperary
Waterford
London
Roscommon

A further 3 to be added from:
Meath or Carlow
Kildare or Offaly
Derry or Donegal

It looks a safe enough draw with probably Armagh and the losers of Derry/Donegal being the teams to avoid.

Louth and Longford will be sticky opponents too.

**Boxtyeater** Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:36 pm

An amalgem of poor sides....They deserve other...

Laois and Roscommon to see false dawns...

Next...

**Thomas Clarke** Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:09 pm

Boxtyeater wrote:An amalgem of poor sides....They deserve other...

Laois and Roscommon to see false dawns...

Next...

I agree totally. I doubt that any of them will make the quarter finals. Armagh the best of what is there.

**bald eagle** Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:23 am

Have to agree with boxty here, bad bunch of teams involved!

First round senior football qualifiers draw:

Laois v Carlow

Westmeath v Louth

Roscommon v Armagh

Fermanagh v Cavan

Tipperary v Offaly

London v Antrim

Wicklow v Waterford

Longford v Derry

I find it hard to understand how Longford got the home advantage when Derry were pulled out of the hat first, this is a new season and just because some teams played away last year it somehow means they get a home draw this year! This means that Derry have to play both championship games away this season, we find it hard enough to get support at games never mind when we are away!

**Parouisa** Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:38 am

In fairness BE Ballybofey is not exactly a nine hour trek ....

If Derry play like they did on Saturday this will be their last outing ...

**bald eagle** Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:16 pm

Parouisa wrote:In fairness BE Ballybofey is not exactly a nine hour trek ....

If Derry play like they did on Saturday this will be their last outing ...

It's not Celtic Park either Par, home advantage means a lot, especially to Derry and due to favours being done to teams who played away last year, it likely will be our last outting.

**Parouisa** Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:19 pm

Ye are better off that way so ... no?

**bald eagle** Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:24 pm

No one wants to see their county out of the championship, well except those who have holidays booked.........like the Derry senior squad!

**Boxtyeater** Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:18 pm

Thomas Clarke wrote:I agree totally. I doubt that any of them will make the quarter finals. Armagh the best of what is there.

The Sheepstealers will be "hard bet" in the Hyde...That'll be a good game..

**Thomas Clarke** Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:36 pm

Boxtyeater wrote:
Thomas Clarke wrote:I agree totally. I doubt that any of them will make the quarter finals. Armagh the best of what is there.

The Sheepstealers will be "hard bet" in the Hyde...That'll be a good game..

Roscommon were abysmal against Galway, who in turn were easily dispatched by Sligo. Armagh will be more organised, fitter, and have more guts than them and, while they aren't great, I think that will be enough to get them through.

**Boxtyeater** Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:46 pm

Thomas Clarke wrote:Roscommon were abysmal against Galway, who in turn were easily dispatched by Sligo. Armagh will be more organised, fitter, and have more guts than them and, while they aren't great, I think that will be enough to get them through.

I'd have respect for your comment TC, but the Rossies have a certain pride too..They'll fancy this one, and on the day have better ammunition across the pitch..Shine didn't become a bad footballer overnight....

**Thomas Clarke** Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:36 pm

I don't know Boxty. I picked Roscommon over Galway, but I just sense a bit of, what shall we call it, 'Donegal of old' about them. Talented, but fond of the good life, short on grit, and high on false dawns. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that the Armagh will have too much energy and work rate for them.

**scoopmine** Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:00 pm

A good draw for us although Fermanagh will be saying the same. I say us by 2 points

**Thomas Clarke** Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:10 pm

scoopmine wrote:A good draw for us although Fermanagh will be saying the same. I say us by 2 points

The shame about this game, is that both sides will be without their most gifted forwards. One has been lost to the dark side, and the other has decided to become a full time drinker again!

**scoopmine** Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:14 pm

Did he ever really stop. A barstool must be a great cure for a hamstring!

**Boxtyeater** Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:58 pm

Thomas Clarke wrote:I don't know Boxty. I picked Roscommon over Galway, but I just sense a bit of, what shall we call it, 'Donegal of old' about them. Talented, but fond of the good life, short on grit, and high on false dawns. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that the Armagh will have too much energy and work rate for them.

Fair point TC, but as their neighbour and victim of a fair few beatings you wouldn't write them off just yet...

The county of Jimmy Murray, Bill Carlos, The Chief of Staff and Tony McManus have it in them to overcome Armagh..

Gaa_lover Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:13 am

First round senior football qualifiers draw:

Laois v Carlow - Straight forward win for Laois

Westmeath v Louth - tough one to call Louth struggling to field a team while Westmeath getting hammered in challenge games i'll go for Louth.

Roscommon v Armagh - Roscommon would stand a chance if O'Donnell was still around but he isn't i expect another massacre Des Newton will leave after this game.

Fermanagh v Cavan - Another close one to call i'll side with Fermanagh

Tipperary v Offaly - Tipp looked decent v Kerry, Offaly are in awful shape at the moment. Tipp to win.

London v Antrim - I think we'll get a shock here a one point win for London.

Wicklow v Waterford - straight forward win for Wicklow

Longford v Derry - Another shock on the cards but after watching Derry last weekend would it really be a shock?

Armagh could go far the rest of them will do well to get past round 2 i feel.

**Grenvile** Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:26 am

As good a draw as Cavan could have hoped for. Fermanagh are at our level and the game should be closely contested. The players were making the right noises after the Donegal game and the feeling seems to be that they are keen to give the qualifiers due attention. Brewster will hold nothing but happy memories for our young side and if we can overcome what seems to be a long injury list I don't see any reason why we couldn't get past Fermanagh.

**GAA-Fan** Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:12 am

Wouldn't be suprised to see Armagh beaten, they are the most inconsistent team. They can play great football one day and be absolutely cold and uninterested the next.

**Parouisa** Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:33 am

GAA-Fan wrote:Wouldn't be suprised to see Armagh beaten, they are the most inconsistent team. They can play great football one day and be absolutely cold and uninterested the next.

Lucky they never have to play two days in a row so ...... Laughing

**bocerty** Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:43 am

Thomas Clarke wrote:
scoopmine wrote:A good draw for us although Fermanagh will be saying the same. I say us by 2 points

The shame about this game, is that both sides will be without their most gifted forwards. One has been lost to the dark side, and the other has decided to become a full time drinker again!

hard to see Fermanagh having any impact in the qualifiers without big Quigley.

He wouldnt work on batteries if the stories about him are to be believed. The Fermanagh guys at work tell a story that he works in a mushroom factory (or something along those lines) he was offered the day shift or night shift and opted for the night shift so he wouldnt have to go to County training.

Awful waste of a good talent if its true.

**Thomas Clarke** Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:58 am

bocerty wrote: hard to see Fermanagh having any impact in the qualifiers without big Quigley.

He wouldnt work on batteries if the stories about him are to be believed. The Fermanagh guys at work tell a story that he works in a mushroom factory (or something along those lines) he was offered the day shift or night shift and opted for the night shift so he wouldnt have to go to County training.

Awful waste of a good talent if its true.

Yeah, the biggest shame from a Fermanagh perspective is that they don't have a remotely like-for-like replacement. Bigger counties could forget about him easily, but Fermanagh just don't have enough good players to compensate for such a loss.

Having said that, I think they will give Cavan their fill of it, and these game could easily go either way.

**redhandman** Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:41 pm

bald eagle wrote:
Parouisa wrote:In fairness BE Ballybofey is not exactly a nine hour trek ....

If Derry play like they did on Saturday this will be their last outing ...

It's not Celtic Park either Par, home advantage means a lot, especially to Derry and due to favours being done to teams who played away last year, it likely will be our last outting.

celtic park is hardly the home of derry football. more up there interested in the brandywell. ballinderry the loup swatragh ballymaguigan all a right jaunt to celtic park

**Grenvile** Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:01 pm

Thomas Clarke wrote:
bocerty wrote: hard to see Fermanagh having any impact in the qualifiers without big Quigley.

He wouldnt work on batteries if the stories about him are to be believed. The Fermanagh guys at work tell a story that he works in a mushroom factory (or something along those lines) he was offered the day shift or night shift and opted for the night shift so he wouldnt have to go to County training.

Awful waste of a good talent if its true.

Yeah, the biggest shame from a Fermanagh perspective is that they don't have a remotely like-for-like replacement. Bigger counties could forget about him easily, but Fermanagh just don't have enough good players to compensate for such a loss.

Having said that, I think they will give Cavan their fill of it, and these game could easily go either way.

Worryingly there seems to be an expectation around the county that we will surely beat Fermanagh. I can't see how anyone can install us as favourites in this game. Very little between the sides and if our injury list is as bad as is rumored our summer could be ending next Sunday.

**Thomas Clarke** Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:05 pm

I'd agree with you JS. Cavan have done nothing at senior level recently to suggest that they should be favourites over Fermanagh. Fair enough, there is an air of expectation regarding the U21s, but Fermanagh will be keen and organised, and this one could go either way. (Especially in Brewster Pk.)

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