Connolly red card

mullins wrote:Connolly to rock Croker on the 18th......Justice

Dont believe you, there is no way they could overturn that red card.

if connolly does not get off on this it be a total disgrace and will open a can of worms

hipster 2 wrote:if connolly does not get off on this it be a total disgrace and will open a can of worms

Rubbish, if he does get of with it then its a bigger disgrace and tells players they are allowed to strike their opponent. The four courts will be busy

samin12 wrote:

hipster 2 wrote:if connolly does not get off on this it be a total disgrace and will open a can of worms

Rubbish, if he does get of with it then its a bigger disgrace and tells players they are allowed to strike their opponent. The four courts will be busy

Connolly got of just confirmed...........Brillo justice

are you for real , connolly hit out but only after he was provoked and attacked first , the one who caused the trouble gets away scot free , where will this leave our sport , where cheating wins where acting the maggott wins , instead of trying to coach players to play football attack , defend , tackle , score , you coach them to provoke opposition players to cheat and dive . i fear gaelic football is at a crossroads and action has to be taking by the powers that be to sort out this hollox

mullins wrote:

samin12 wrote:

hipster 2 wrote:if connolly does not get off on this it be a total disgrace and will open a can of worms

Rubbish, if he does get of with it then its a bigger disgrace and tells players they are allowed to strike their opponent. The four courts will be busy

Connolly got of just confirmed...........Brillo justice

who you here this off bottler ?

hipster 2 wrote:are you for real , connolly hit out but only after he was provoked and attacked first , the one who caused the trouble gets away scot free , where will this leave our sport , where cheating wins where acting the maggott wins , instead of trying to coach players to play football attack , defend , tackle , score , you coach them to provoke opposition players to cheat and dive . i fear gaelic football is at a crossroads and action has to be taking by the powers that be to sort out this hollox

Now, now Hipster. If Connolly is indeed cleared to play in the final, it ain't exactly a bad bargain for the Dubs.

hipster 2 wrote:

mullins wrote:

samin12 wrote:

hipster 2 wrote:if connolly does not get off on this it be a total disgrace and will open a can of worms

Rubbish, if he does get of with it then its a bigger disgrace and tells players they are allowed to strike their opponent. The four courts will be busy

Connolly got of just confirmed...........Brillo justice

who you here this off bottler ?

Just back from the monday club,where else that's where i get all my info...

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:

hipster 2 wrote:are you for real , connolly hit out but only after he was provoked and attacked first , the one who caused the trouble gets away scot free , where will this leave our sport , where cheating wins where acting the maggott wins , instead of trying to coach players to play football attack , defend , tackle , score , you coach them to provoke opposition players to cheat and dive . i fear gaelic football is at a crossroads and action has to be taking by the powers that be to sort out this hollox

Now, now Hipster. If Connolly is indeed cleared to play in the final, it ain't exactly a bad bargain for the Dubs.

if he gets off its because the ref made a mess of it , but the bigger picture is divers cheaters should be dealt with after the game if the ref does not see it , and over night problem solved

mullins wrote:

hipster 2 wrote:

mullins wrote:

samin12 wrote:

hipster 2 wrote:if connolly does not get off on this it be a total disgrace and will open a can of worms

Rubbish, if he does get of with it then its a bigger disgrace and tells players they are allowed to strike their opponent. The four courts will be busy

Connolly got of just confirmed...........Brillo justice

who you here this off bottler ?

Just back from the monday club,where else that's where i get all my info...

the monday club they were the days

Connolly free for All-Ireland final
05 Sep 2011 | hill16.ie
Diarmuid Connolly will be available for selection for the Dublin senior footballers in their All-Ireland SFC final against Kerry on Sunday week.
The St Vincent’s men went before the Central Hearings Committee on Monday night after a proposed four-week suspension his red card in Dublin’s victory over Donegal in their semi-final would have ruled him out of the decider.

This has to beg the question of Brian Farrell's recent tribulations - in light of Connolly's actions, it hardly adds up?

How can the system be such that two actions of equal malice are treated so differently?

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:This has to beg the question of Brian Farrell's recent tribulations - in light of Connolly's actions, it hardly adds up?

How can the system be such that two actions of equal malice are treated so differently?

Loyal if you could read it would add up rather easily...

mullins wrote:

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:This has to beg the question of Brian Farrell's recent tribulations - in light of Connolly's actions, it hardly adds up?

How can the system be such that two actions of equal malice are treated so differently?

Loyal if you could read it would add up rather easily...

Maybe you can provide the maths because it ain't adding up for me.

Farrell shouldn't have gotten a red, neither should Connolly. Tis very simple. Yet Brian's red wasn't over turned, so should Connolly's be?

mullins wrote:I have good information that this card will be rescinded..............Don't worry to much about it JC

See loyal you need to open your eyes...

It's Not like i didn't tell you loyal

hipster 2 wrote:are you for real , connolly hit out but only after he was provoked and attacked first , the one who caused the trouble gets away scot free , where will this leave our sport , where cheating wins where acting the maggott wins , instead of trying to coach players to play football attack , defend , tackle , score , you coach them to provoke opposition players to cheat and dive . i fear gaelic football is at a crossroads and action has to be taking by the powers that be to sort out this hollox

he was hit a shoulder nothing more. happens dozens of times in similar circumstances in every game at every level, he wasn't "attacked".

Mullins that is not the issue you replied to on your penultimate post.

Are you going to co-operate and indicate what you mean by "Loyal if you could read it would add up rather easily..." or are you going to continue with ignorance?

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:Mullins that is not the issue you replied to on your penultimate post.

Are you going to co-operate and indicate what you mean by "Loyal if you could read it would add up rather easily..." or are you going to continue with ignorance?

He got off because hes a Dub,an we are the people

The inconsistency is annoying, but it's good for the final that both teams have a full compliment to choose from, there was no malice in Connolly's action and it would have been a pity for anyone to miss a Final because of that.

People here like quoting articles - here's one from an Offaly man ....

Vincent Hogan: If you think Connolly deserves to miss the All-Ireland final, congratulations, you've lived a charmed life

To understand where Diarmuid Connolly is now, it might help if you've, occasionally, tripped over the odd Commandment. Nothing especially grave or recidivist, you understand. It's just, if you're pure as the driven snow, you probably see justice as some kind of cold book of statutes. Iron law, in other words. Unmoving. Incorruptible.

Therefore, you cannot possibly empathise with the Dublin footballer. He's of another world.

If, on the other hand, you've the odd pockmark to your story, maybe you take a more nuanced view of his predicament. Because ever since he was a kid in Marino, every day of Connolly's life has probably felt like a step closer to the epoch looming next Sunday week.

And, now that he's on the doorstep, it looks like he might be turned away.

Tonight, a meeting of the GAA's Central Hearings Committee will consider his appeal against the four-week suspension received for an incident with Donegal's Marty Boyle on August 28. If they reject him, Connolly will still have the option of two further layers of appeal.

But this warped time of not knowing must be excruciating for him and his family.

If you're not familiar with Connolly's sin, go 'YouTube' it. From a game that was a quarrelling, bickering mess -- little gusts of lawlessness blowing through from start to finish -- he was identified as committing the most serious crime of all. Which was?

Pushing away a player who had just barrelled into him unprovoked.

Taking the letter of the law, Connolly "raised his hands" and, therefore, had to go. But does it reflect an unorthodox view of justice to ask about the spirit? He clearly wasn't the aggressor and Boyle's reaction of crumpling to the floor like a drunk suddenly at odds with gravity, helped neither the referee, linesman nor -- by extension -- Connolly.

In a game of a thousand crimes, the single jail sentence arrived for late payment of a bill.

Now it seems inconceivable that anyone who has ever played even a sedentary game of five-a-side could look at the footage and see something to justify depriving a man his place in an All-Ireland final.

But GAA history can be an absurd mix of ironies and travesties. Tipperary hurler Brian O'Meara was one of the most principled and gentlemanly of county players, yet missed the 2001 hurling decider because of a little rutting exchange with Wexford's Liam Dunne in the semi-final that would barely have raised an eyebrow between hassled mothers at a supermarket checkout.

O'Meara, who had been on the Tipp team beaten by Clare in '97, never played in another All-Ireland final. He was wronged.

We covet the primal element of Gaelic games, the sense of physical abandon with which players submit themselves to the task of upholding a county's honour. That Tipp team of '01 would have had battles with Clare in Munster that made Gallipoli look a picnic.

And, routinely, we mythologise old, unscrupulous soldiers who took liberties with the law.

Connolly himself would have grown up to stories of a supposedly more elegant era when men were men and Dublin teams might send out stony welcoming parties for flying Kerry captains. Actually, seen as we're in the mood for YouTube, go key in 'Mickey Ned O'Sullivan knockout '75'. Then watch between your fingers.

Compared to that time, the scrutiny of players today is borderline neurotic. Cameras pick up everything.

Yet, rewind to the third minute of that Dublin versus Donegal game last Sunday week and watch the physical and verbal baiting of Connolly and Alan Brogan as a Dublin attack breaks down. Returning to their positions, every second step they take is interrupted by a heavy shoulder charge.

It isn't covert and it isn't sly and, frankly, it isn't even illegal. But it captures the tone of engagement. If you look closely, Connolly is actually smiling as it happens. He understands this to be part of the challenge. The weak thing is to react.

Which, one hour later, is essentially what he did.

So, call him weak. Call him impetuous, headstrong, silly. And, maybe, Dublin being reduced to 14 men as that semi-final see-sawed on a pendulum of high-energy panic was fitting punishment for his single second eruption. If his team had been beaten, I doubt Pat Gilroy would have been all hugs and paternal sighs in the dressing-room.

But, if players are to have any higher status than scratch cards in our minds, can it be reasonable that Connolly misses an All-Ireland final too? Bearing in mind he was eight the last time Dublin played on a September Sunday, this might be his only shot.

And it hangs by a thread.

I am reminded of a story Donal Og Cusack tells of Cork's Munster Championship game with Tipp in '09. It was thunderous stuff, quarters neither asked nor given in Semple Stadium.

Tipp's Micheal Webster was engaged in what Cusack would call a "Punch and Judy" battle with Cork's full-back, Eoin Cadogan. Late in the game, Webster's hurley fell from his hand in the Cork square and, almost without thinking, Cusack picked it up and, stamping his foot down, broke the stick in two.

In his autobiography, 'Come What May', the Cork goalkeeper admits that he wasn't proud of it, but explains the act as something that happens "in a combat situation".

Maybe two hours later, he stood in The Castle pub downtown, sharing "a joke and a chat" with Webster's brother. "That's the GAA," writes Cusack. A communion of minds.

Was Cusack guilty of criminal damage? Technical application can, sometimes, be an ass.

If you see no case for Diarmuid Connolly's redemption now, go soap the stigmata in your hands and be thankful. You've led a remarkable life.

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Jayo I have no problem with Connolly getting off for the few barely threatening swipes he threw, it's the fact that he got off in light of Brian Farrell's suspension that confuses me, and this is where problems start to arise in my understanding of the CCCC, the CHC, the CAC and the DRA.

Vincent Hogans from Tipp Jayo

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:Jayo I have no problem with Connolly getting off for the few barely threatening swipes he threw, it's the fact that he got off in light of Brian Farrell's suspension that confuses me, and this is where problems start to arise in my understanding of the CCCC, the CHC, the CAC and the DRA.

L - Farrell was hard done by but should DC be hard done by also? I think he is lucky myself - didn't warrant a red card but got one and so is lucky - hope he brings his A game now!

Moss - was sure he was a Biffo!

Firstly for his perforamance against Tyrone alone morally Connolly deserves to be in the final.

From a Donegal perspective I would stand by most of the tactics adopted last Sunday week no matter how negative with the exception of what Boyle did which was to be frank embarrasing.

Secondly before someone else points it out Michael Murphy had a red card rescinded after the Cavan game after a player fell like a sack of spuds - (though clearly there was no strike and no hand raised)

Thirdly -whether One/Two or Three donegal players also deserved to get sent off is somewhat of a moot point - Give them all one month bans if you want - Though surprised that given the feedback on here the last week that you all have such a facsination re the outcome of the Donegal SFC.

However unless it was for the technicality I am surprised at the decision morally it was right and as the article above states a literal interpretation of the law is not always practical., however a strike to the face should be black or white and if level of force becomes the benchmark does the rule have to change
to

"players shall be sent off for throwing a decent punch "

To me that (to quote an earlier post) is where we have a can of worms