Galway v Clare
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Re: Galway v Clare
mullins wrote:The Puke wrote:mullins wrote:The Puke wrote:Jayo Cluxton wrote:The Puke wrote:Jayo Cluxton wrote:Bit of a non-match. Winner will be beaten next time out in any case ....
indeed Antrim and Cork are far far superior teams alright
Time after then - no real difference - just prolonging agony .....
Still doesn't excuse the fact you are talking sh1t
No he's only giving an opinion..
Which was completely misinformed and just showed his ignorance
Hardly
How isn't it, he firstly completely dismisses both clare and galway out fo hand for the next round despite the fact he didn't even know that the winner would play either Cork or Antrim, which is fairly common knowledge...And then when called out on his mistake he hadn't even the good grace to acknowlegde it and decided to carry on with his auld soft talk
you could do with looking up the definition of ignorance, it is a state of being uninformed ( or in otherwords a lack of knowledge).
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Re: Galway v Clare
The Puke wrote:mullins wrote:The Puke wrote:mullins wrote:The Puke wrote:Jayo Cluxton wrote:The Puke wrote:Jayo Cluxton wrote:Bit of a non-match. Winner will be beaten next time out in any case ....
indeed Antrim and Cork are far far superior teams alright
Time after then - no real difference - just prolonging agony .....
Still doesn't excuse the fact you are talking sh1t
No he's only giving an opinion..
Which was completely misinformed and just showed his ignorance
Hardly
How isn't it, he firstly completely dismisses both clare and galway out fo hand for the next round despite the fact he didn't even know that the winner would play either Cork or Antrim, which is fairly common knowledge...And then when called out on his mistake he hadn't even the good grace to acknowlegde it and decided to carry on with his auld soft talk
you could do with looking up the definition of ignorance, it is a state of being uninformed ( or in otherwords a lack of knowledge).
Yep looked it up Ignorance = Puke
mullins- GAA Hero
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Re: Galway v Clare
mullins wrote:Yep looked it up Ignorance = Puke
Aye Puke - don't give me any ignorance guff there lad. You're the king of that. I called a lot more hurling stuff better than you on here. You can ***** all you like but like a sink without a plug it don't hold water. You think you know all but like all know alls you know fook all!
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Re: Galway v Clare
Puke is right and deep down Mullins man knows it.
As for the game tomorrow it's quite simple, as far as Galway supporters are concerned all we're looking for is a little bit of pride in the jersey. I'd have given Clare half a chance on paper maybe this time last week but since the spiritlessness of the footballers last week there is fundemental questions being asked of what it means to wear the County jersey here in Galway. I expect the hurlers to respond with the bit of pride plus interest that they evidently forgot about the last day.
As for the game tomorrow it's quite simple, as far as Galway supporters are concerned all we're looking for is a little bit of pride in the jersey. I'd have given Clare half a chance on paper maybe this time last week but since the spiritlessness of the footballers last week there is fundemental questions being asked of what it means to wear the County jersey here in Galway. I expect the hurlers to respond with the bit of pride plus interest that they evidently forgot about the last day.
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Re: Galway v Clare
Clare showing their true colours here today.
Go behind and repond with late hits, off the ball filth, and general thuggery.
Man watches ball sailing over the bar, hit him and elbow to the chin. Scumbags, nothing more, nothing less
Go behind and repond with late hits, off the ball filth, and general thuggery.
Man watches ball sailing over the bar, hit him and elbow to the chin. Scumbags, nothing more, nothing less
black&white- GAA All Star
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Re: Galway v Clare
black&white wrote:Clare showing their true colours here today.
Go behind and repond with late hits, off the ball filth, and general thuggery.
Man watches ball sailing over the bar, hit him and elbow to the chin. Scumbags, nothing more, nothing less
i thought only Down hurlers were guilty of that kind of stuff!!!!!
bocerty- Moderator
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Re: Galway v Clare
Another disappointing year for Clare, and indeed it's been a disappointing last ten years after the aberration of the nineties.
Young team of course but their naivety shown up with some late challenges, poor decision making and bad execution of the basics. Galway showed some more passion than the Dublin game, and to be fair so did Clare, but Galway have the better class of hurler. Two championship games, two losses and Division Two again in 2012. Looks like Clare are slowly slipping back to being the nobodys of Munster again.
Hard to believe, Clare have only won two games in the last twelve Munster Championships and both those came against ordinary Tipperary and Limerick teams. Bar a draw with Kilkenny in 2004, and an exceptional sixty minutes against Cork in 2005, Clare really have done nothing since their last All-Ireland Final appearance.
Young team of course but their naivety shown up with some late challenges, poor decision making and bad execution of the basics. Galway showed some more passion than the Dublin game, and to be fair so did Clare, but Galway have the better class of hurler. Two championship games, two losses and Division Two again in 2012. Looks like Clare are slowly slipping back to being the nobodys of Munster again.
Hard to believe, Clare have only won two games in the last twelve Munster Championships and both those came against ordinary Tipperary and Limerick teams. Bar a draw with Kilkenny in 2004, and an exceptional sixty minutes against Cork in 2005, Clare really have done nothing since their last All-Ireland Final appearance.
Loyal2TheRoyal- GAA Elite
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Re: Galway v Clare
was a brutal match you just knew galway were going to win , clare were brutal playing division 2 is not doing them any favours , galway were a little bit better than against dublin but still looked a bit off the pace but this game will bring them on , also the tackle on joe canning and the other galway lad was just pure scum take your beating and learn from it
hipster 2- GAA Minor
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Re: Galway v Clare
Again tonight just showed the fundamental problems with Clare hurling and this management team
The three problems that have dogged this side over Sparrow 2 years in charge were there for all to see...
Firstly our callowness and lack of physicality was ruthlessly exploited, cleaned out in the air and for nearly every 50/50 on the ground, granted Galway are a big physical side and physically would be a match for any side but they went through tackles with ease today....The likes of Pat O'Connor- who will be a fine player for Clare in the medium term- & Markham are just too light for the middle third of the field at this point in time and as a team we are unable to either make or break from tackles
Secondly our backs were yet again destroyed when faced with a side that didn't play with an orthodox 3 & 3 forward line and again were unable to cope with any kind of movement, added to this our covering & basis hooking and blocking were terrible for an intercounty side...Again this comes down to coaching
Thirdly the lack of experience and leadership was there for all to be seen again....Vaughan, Diarmuid, Donnellan, Clancy and Lynch, the 5 outfield lads who have experience and are over 24 were very poor, 4 were replaced and Donnellan could have had no complaints if he was withdrawn....Again too much pressure on Conlon in the half forward line due to the other two not firing while our backs were second to every ball and lost their men too easy
It was expected that Sparrow would go at the end of the season and today will make sure of it, I have nothing against the man and he deserves credit for taking the job when nobody else would touch it and also the fact that he has pretty much kept nearly all the players onside over the past 2 years despite the terrible results and the economic climate when nobody could blame young lads for walking away and going off travelling but he and his management team are out of their depth...Granted he has given the benefit of the doubt to the young lads 9 times out of 10 when it comes to team selection and in 4 or 5 years time we will be quite thankful for this but it has been a couple of very poor years with very little improvement in the grand scheme of things
Where from here
Well depending on the new management team but I wouldn't be surprised to see us come on leaps and bounds under a newer management team come next year.....Liam Doyle for all he was one of my hero's growing up is a very average club trainer and far removed from the quality of trainer you need at this level....
I wouldn't be too bent out of shape about the defeat tonight, we are young and learning, the sending off didn't help - James Mc should be ashamed of himself and his act of sheer thuggery, deserves 6 months for it- and it was over as a contest well before the end and with Galway's fitness and size they were always going to pull away, again the younger lads showed flashes of potential at times and I have no doubt that the likes of Nickey O'Connell, John Conlon and Conor McGrath will excell for us in the medium term, Cian Dillon - a lad I have criticised in the past- has put two very credible displays together in the past couple of weeks while add the likes of Honan, Domhniall O'Donovan, Cathal McInerney, Pat O'Connor are more than capable of more than holding their own at this level.....There is plenty of young talent in the county and despite being completely outmuscled and outhurled we had 19 points on the board 50 odd minutes into the game
I said after the Dublin game this time last year we were 4 years away from getting back towards the better side and I still believe that in 2 or 3 years time (depending in the next management team) we will have a fine side when the players I have named above have developed a bit more experience and the callowness has gone out of them, along with some of the lads we have coming through between 17 and 22 who will bring a winning mentality and a confidence with them along with no little skill....But it is a young team as they stand before adding these lads to it
We have to take our medicine unfortunately, we are currently paying for the lack of effort put in at underage for the most part of the last decade leaving us with a panel very short on quality between the ages of 24 and 30, and the few of that age bracket who were up to it had whatever apetite for I/C hurling eroded away by Mike Mac
We will be back it just requires a bit of patience, no doubt the likes of Afr will be full of lads waffling and badmouthing these young lads but they need our support, negativity & classing all and sundry on the panel as useless will get us nowhere will get us nowhere
As for our next manager, depending on how Waterford finish out the year Davy will no doubt be the front runner, i am not his biggest fan but you can be guarenteed that he will improve us no end on the three main issues I raised at the start of this post....Depending on how the 21's go, John Minogue and Cyril Lyons will be in with a decent shout as well, while the minor management may well be dark horses too, although if the 21's management were to make the step up you would hope that Mr Moloney and O'Connor would take the 21's job....
Rumour has it that the league is going to be restructured come August, Division 2 is killing us and our development but unfortunately it is our level at the moment and we desrve to be there but if it is restructured it would be a huge boost as we just aren't getting enough decent games and it has shown in our lack of physicality and fitness
The three problems that have dogged this side over Sparrow 2 years in charge were there for all to see...
Firstly our callowness and lack of physicality was ruthlessly exploited, cleaned out in the air and for nearly every 50/50 on the ground, granted Galway are a big physical side and physically would be a match for any side but they went through tackles with ease today....The likes of Pat O'Connor- who will be a fine player for Clare in the medium term- & Markham are just too light for the middle third of the field at this point in time and as a team we are unable to either make or break from tackles
Secondly our backs were yet again destroyed when faced with a side that didn't play with an orthodox 3 & 3 forward line and again were unable to cope with any kind of movement, added to this our covering & basis hooking and blocking were terrible for an intercounty side...Again this comes down to coaching
Thirdly the lack of experience and leadership was there for all to be seen again....Vaughan, Diarmuid, Donnellan, Clancy and Lynch, the 5 outfield lads who have experience and are over 24 were very poor, 4 were replaced and Donnellan could have had no complaints if he was withdrawn....Again too much pressure on Conlon in the half forward line due to the other two not firing while our backs were second to every ball and lost their men too easy
It was expected that Sparrow would go at the end of the season and today will make sure of it, I have nothing against the man and he deserves credit for taking the job when nobody else would touch it and also the fact that he has pretty much kept nearly all the players onside over the past 2 years despite the terrible results and the economic climate when nobody could blame young lads for walking away and going off travelling but he and his management team are out of their depth...Granted he has given the benefit of the doubt to the young lads 9 times out of 10 when it comes to team selection and in 4 or 5 years time we will be quite thankful for this but it has been a couple of very poor years with very little improvement in the grand scheme of things
Where from here
Well depending on the new management team but I wouldn't be surprised to see us come on leaps and bounds under a newer management team come next year.....Liam Doyle for all he was one of my hero's growing up is a very average club trainer and far removed from the quality of trainer you need at this level....
I wouldn't be too bent out of shape about the defeat tonight, we are young and learning, the sending off didn't help - James Mc should be ashamed of himself and his act of sheer thuggery, deserves 6 months for it- and it was over as a contest well before the end and with Galway's fitness and size they were always going to pull away, again the younger lads showed flashes of potential at times and I have no doubt that the likes of Nickey O'Connell, John Conlon and Conor McGrath will excell for us in the medium term, Cian Dillon - a lad I have criticised in the past- has put two very credible displays together in the past couple of weeks while add the likes of Honan, Domhniall O'Donovan, Cathal McInerney, Pat O'Connor are more than capable of more than holding their own at this level.....There is plenty of young talent in the county and despite being completely outmuscled and outhurled we had 19 points on the board 50 odd minutes into the game
I said after the Dublin game this time last year we were 4 years away from getting back towards the better side and I still believe that in 2 or 3 years time (depending in the next management team) we will have a fine side when the players I have named above have developed a bit more experience and the callowness has gone out of them, along with some of the lads we have coming through between 17 and 22 who will bring a winning mentality and a confidence with them along with no little skill....But it is a young team as they stand before adding these lads to it
We have to take our medicine unfortunately, we are currently paying for the lack of effort put in at underage for the most part of the last decade leaving us with a panel very short on quality between the ages of 24 and 30, and the few of that age bracket who were up to it had whatever apetite for I/C hurling eroded away by Mike Mac
We will be back it just requires a bit of patience, no doubt the likes of Afr will be full of lads waffling and badmouthing these young lads but they need our support, negativity & classing all and sundry on the panel as useless will get us nowhere will get us nowhere
As for our next manager, depending on how Waterford finish out the year Davy will no doubt be the front runner, i am not his biggest fan but you can be guarenteed that he will improve us no end on the three main issues I raised at the start of this post....Depending on how the 21's go, John Minogue and Cyril Lyons will be in with a decent shout as well, while the minor management may well be dark horses too, although if the 21's management were to make the step up you would hope that Mr Moloney and O'Connor would take the 21's job....
Rumour has it that the league is going to be restructured come August, Division 2 is killing us and our development but unfortunately it is our level at the moment and we desrve to be there but if it is restructured it would be a huge boost as we just aren't getting enough decent games and it has shown in our lack of physicality and fitness
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Re: Galway v Clare
While acknowledging Clare are a young and hopefully coming team their defending this evening was indefensible. Basic rules of defending went out the window and they seemed to be constantly ball watching and getting caught wrong side of attackers. Discipline too was poor and Puke can not talk about Down any more cos there was some very poor strokes and stuff there tonight. Made Galway look good but Joe had a better game and scored a pretty awesome goal. I'd say even Loyal was impressed. But like I said the other day ... an irrelevant game.
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Re: Galway v Clare
Joe Canning pushed Nicky O'Connell to the ground en route to scoring his goal should have been a free out.
hurlingguru- GAA All Star
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Re: Galway v Clare
hurlingguru wrote:Joe Canning pushed Nicky O'Connell to the ground en route to scoring his goal should have been a free out.
Kill or be killed situation - O'Connell got killed - embarrassingly easily ...
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Jayo Cluxton wrote:hurlingguru wrote:Joe Canning pushed Nicky O'Connell to the ground en route to scoring his goal should have been a free out.
Kill or be killed situation - O'Connell got killed - embarrassingly easily ...
I think the ref gave the benefit of the doubt to Canning seeing as O'Connel was charging and holding.
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Re: Galway v Clare
Ger O'Loughlin has resigned as Clare hurling manger after two years in the role.
The Clarecastle native tendered his resignation to the Clare County Board last evening and it was accepted.
He had been expected to step down in the wake of last Saturday's 17 point loss to Galway in the All Ireland qualifier.
Speaking to Clare FM earlier this week following the weekend's disappointing defeat to Galway - Ger O'Loughlin said he would step aside if it was in the interests of Clare Hurling
In a statement to Clare FM, The Clare County GAA Board has now confirmed with much regret that Sparrow has decided to step down as Senior Hurling Manager. - based on what they described as the fact that a new voice and approach is in the best interests of Clare Hurling going forward into the future.
The county board conveyed its deep appreciation to Ger O'Loughlin for his work, commitment and dedication to the job over the past two seasons and sincerely thanked him and his family for the time and effort he gave during his tenure.
The Clarecastle native tendered his resignation to the Clare County Board last evening and it was accepted.
He had been expected to step down in the wake of last Saturday's 17 point loss to Galway in the All Ireland qualifier.
Speaking to Clare FM earlier this week following the weekend's disappointing defeat to Galway - Ger O'Loughlin said he would step aside if it was in the interests of Clare Hurling
In a statement to Clare FM, The Clare County GAA Board has now confirmed with much regret that Sparrow has decided to step down as Senior Hurling Manager. - based on what they described as the fact that a new voice and approach is in the best interests of Clare Hurling going forward into the future.
The county board conveyed its deep appreciation to Ger O'Loughlin for his work, commitment and dedication to the job over the past two seasons and sincerely thanked him and his family for the time and effort he gave during his tenure.
The Puke- GAA Hero
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Re: Galway v Clare
black&white wrote:Clare showing their true colours here today.
Go behind and repond with late hits, off the ball filth, and general thuggery.
Man watches ball sailing over the bar, hit him and elbow to the chin. Scumbags, nothing more, nothing less
Is Quinn the coach?
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