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Post  Dr.Shephard Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:36 pm

I would like to say congratulations to the people of South West Donegal who have rejected the soldiers of Destruction and also the "alternative" of FG/Labour.
In huge numbers they turned to the best candidate from a party opposed to the severe cuts and mis-treatment of the lesss well off in our society.
At last people are beginning to cop on.
The 7000 or so people who voted for the FF candidate are not real Irish people at all and anyone who votes for them at the next General election is a Traitor to this country.

Congrats Donegal South/West constituents and well Done Pearse Doherty T.D.
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Post  mullins Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:00 pm

Congrats to Pearse -Dr.Shephard not surprised to see a him win this seat, he truely deserved it as he was the only one looking for this by election.....As for putting down the FG/Lab parties i think thats a little bit below the belt..Early days yet Neutral
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Post  OMAR Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:02 pm

Very good result for SF
Wasn't expecting FF to lose as much ground and thought that even though he was dreadful that at worst FG would pick up 25% of the vote.

Doesn't make any difference really - Doherty was always going to get enough to take a seat in the general election
Coughlan, McGinley,Doherty

but if this is indicative of the level of swing away from FF there is going to be carnage in the General Election -
The shinners will fancy their chances in a lot of areas where FF have two seats - Eg Donegal North East - MCLochlainn was close last time out - McDaid is not running so all he has to do is pick up some of the "letterkenny" vote that was loyal to McDaid rather than FF

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Post  mullins Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:05 pm

Dr.Shephard Question Could you explain why Sinn Fein voted for this pay rise,during times of cutbacks scratch

Divided Dail unites -- to give itself a pay rise


As the country faces economic meltdown, TDs and senators are planning to improve their already plush terms and conditions.

An official estimate of the money required to run the Dail in 2011 'sneaked' through the Dail last Thursday reveals that the recession stops at the gates of Leinster House.

In a touching scene, deputies across all parties suspended hostilities and agreed to the estimates without a single objection.

The estimates reveal that the cost of a Dail which serves fewer people than the population of cities such as greater Manchester, will in 2011 come to €112,983,000 -- which represents a drop of just €1.2m (or 1 per cent) on last year's spending.

But expenditure on the perks and services enjoyed by our TDs and senators will actually increase in certain areas next year.

The cost of salaries for TDs, senators and secretarial assistants will increase, while salaries of staff like those in catering and behind the Dail bar will decrease.

The estimates for 2011 reveal that there will be an increase in the postal and telecommunications service, which allows TDs and senators to send out promotional literature to their constituents.

The budget for delegates to 'other parliamentary assemblies' has increased by 50 per cent and the 'grant in aid' for 'inter-parliamentary activities' has also increased by a whopping 40 per cent.

Even this, however, is dwarfed by the increase in the budget for allowances in respect of former members of the houses of the Oireachtas, which has been increased from €49,000 to €149,000.

At a time when pensioners fear losing entitlements such as free travel, the estimates also contain an increase of the 'grant in aid' to parliamentary pensioners from from €10,084,000 to €10,562,000, indicating that Dail and Seanad pension recipients will be unique within the country in actually securing an increase next year. The estimates also reveal that there will be a substantial increase in the Budget for televising Dail and Seanad proceedings, which provides TDs and Senators with much-desired coverage.

Though some minimalistic cuts are revealed in the anticipated expenses of TDs and senators, one source noted that "when the increases are taken in the round, TDs and senators will not be losing a penny in salaries and expenses next year''.

Every member of the dail agreed to this Dr. scratch
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Post  Dr.Shephard Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:27 pm

mullins wrote:Dr.Shephard Question Could you explain why Sinn Fein voted for this pay rise,during times of cutbacks scratch

Divided Dail unites -- to give itself a pay rise


As the country faces economic meltdown, TDs and senators are planning to improve their already plush terms and conditions.

An official estimate of the money required to run the Dail in 2011 'sneaked' through the Dail last Thursday reveals that the recession stops at the gates of Leinster House.

In a touching scene, deputies across all parties suspended hostilities and agreed to the estimates without a single objection.

The estimates reveal that the cost of a Dail which serves fewer people than the population of cities such as greater Manchester, will in 2011 come to €112,983,000 -- which represents a drop of just €1.2m (or 1 per cent) on last year's spending.

But expenditure on the perks and services enjoyed by our TDs and senators will actually increase in certain areas next year.

The cost of salaries for TDs, senators and secretarial assistants will increase, while salaries of staff like those in catering and behind the Dail bar will decrease.

The estimates for 2011 reveal that there will be an increase in the postal and telecommunications service, which allows TDs and senators to send out promotional literature to their constituents.

The budget for delegates to 'other parliamentary assemblies' has increased by 50 per cent and the 'grant in aid' for 'inter-parliamentary activities' has also increased by a whopping 40 per cent.

Even this, however, is dwarfed by the increase in the budget for allowances in respect of former members of the houses of the Oireachtas, which has been increased from €49,000 to €149,000.

At a time when pensioners fear losing entitlements such as free travel, the estimates also contain an increase of the 'grant in aid' to parliamentary pensioners from from €10,084,000 to €10,562,000, indicating that Dail and Seanad pension recipients will be unique within the country in actually securing an increase next year. The estimates also reveal that there will be a substantial increase in the Budget for televising Dail and Seanad proceedings, which provides TDs and Senators with much-desired coverage.

Though some minimalistic cuts are revealed in the anticipated expenses of TDs and senators, one source noted that "when the increases are taken in the round, TDs and senators will not be losing a penny in salaries and expenses next year''.

Every member of the dail agreed to this Dr. scratch


Where did you copy and paste this from? It may not be accurate.
If it is accurate I will try to find out if SF supported it and if so, why?
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Post  mullins Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:01 pm

Dr.Shephard wrote:
mullins wrote:Dr.Shephard Question Could you explain why Sinn Fein voted for this pay rise,during times of cutbacks scratch

Divided Dail unites -- to give itself a pay rise


As the country faces economic meltdown, TDs and senators are planning to improve their already plush terms and conditions.

An official estimate of the money required to run the Dail in 2011 'sneaked' through the Dail last Thursday reveals that the recession stops at the gates of Leinster House.

In a touching scene, deputies across all parties suspended hostilities and agreed to the estimates without a single objection.

The estimates reveal that the cost of a Dail which serves fewer people than the population of cities such as greater Manchester, will in 2011 come to €112,983,000 -- which represents a drop of just €1.2m (or 1 per cent) on last year's spending.

But expenditure on the perks and services enjoyed by our TDs and senators will actually increase in certain areas next year.

The cost of salaries for TDs, senators and secretarial assistants will increase, while salaries of staff like those in catering and behind the Dail bar will decrease.

The estimates for 2011 reveal that there will be an increase in the postal and telecommunications service, which allows TDs and senators to send out promotional literature to their constituents.

The budget for delegates to 'other parliamentary assemblies' has increased by 50 per cent and the 'grant in aid' for 'inter-parliamentary activities' has also increased by a whopping 40 per cent.

Even this, however, is dwarfed by the increase in the budget for allowances in respect of former members of the houses of the Oireachtas, which has been increased from €49,000 to €149,000.

At a time when pensioners fear losing entitlements such as free travel, the estimates also contain an increase of the 'grant in aid' to parliamentary pensioners from from €10,084,000 to €10,562,000, indicating that Dail and Seanad pension recipients will be unique within the country in actually securing an increase next year. The estimates also reveal that there will be a substantial increase in the Budget for televising Dail and Seanad proceedings, which provides TDs and Senators with much-desired coverage.

Though some minimalistic cuts are revealed in the anticipated expenses of TDs and senators, one source noted that "when the increases are taken in the round, TDs and senators will not be losing a penny in salaries and expenses next year''.

Every member of the dail agreed to this Dr. scratch


Where did you copy and paste this from? It may not be accurate.
If it is accurate I will try to find out if SF supported it and if so, why?

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thats the link Dr.
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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:48 pm

Sinn Fein, the most disliked political party in the history of the state. How would anyone vote for such a shower?
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Post  Peter Solan the Great Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:23 pm

Its amazing that 20% of people voted for the traitors.
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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:32 pm

Peter Solan the Great wrote:Its amazing that 20% of people voted for the traitors.

Even more amazing is the fact that without a viable alternative, the people of Ireland are willing to put the destiny of the state in the hands of Sinn Fein.
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Post  OMAR Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:37 pm

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:
Peter Solan the Great wrote:Its amazing that 20% of people voted for the traitors.

Even more amazing is the fact that without a viable alternative, the people of Ireland are willing to put the destiny of the state in the hands of Sinn Fein.

To be fair thats the key point from today

Brian Farrell Swingometer

FF Minus 30
FG Minus 2
Shinners and Others + 32

IF FG think they are going to win 80+ seats this ain't a good barometer
now Im sure PSTG will talk about the civil war and the Donegal anyone but FG attitude
but it looks like the FF diehards will vote FF and the FF angry diehards will vote for anyone but FF or FG - means that FG can't gain seats in FF areas.







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Post  Boxtyeater Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:42 pm

Having been canvassing there last weekend, the mood did appear to have swung to Doherty. The party stance in forcing the by-election allied to his 2 previous near misses rallied the Donegal people in his direction and I can only say they got their result.
Coughlan would want to hold firm on a single candidate ticket, cos' given the meltdown in the vote a dual ticket could prove disasterous.
Almost 21k. first preferences vapourised into more than 7k.....Frightening.

Anyway, its over and congrats Deputy Doherty....

There hasn't been a Deputy Doherty since the halcyon and heady days of the late Sean..... Wink
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Post  Boxtyeater Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:47 pm

Spare a thought for this man, as Omar talks of political barometers, where does his showing come on the Gilmore gale.....Force 1 if northerly I guess...
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Post  OMAR Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:11 pm



There hasn't been a Deputy Doherty since the halcyon and heady days of the late Sean..... Wink [/quote]

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There is however a former neighbour of mine who is also an elected Doherty from the 26- he sits in the lower house in a different parliament

Pearse is a "Kennedyesque" statesman in comparison - though will leave it to BOC and TC to cast judgement - as im sure he works like a "(Mary O Rourkeism) in the local area etc etc.


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Post  OMAR Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:26 pm

[quote="Boxtyeater"]Having been canvassing there last weekend, the mood did appear to have swung to Doherty. The party stance in forcing the by-election allied to his 2 previous near misses rallied the Donegal people in his direction and I can only say they got their result.
Coughlan would want to hold firm on a single candidate ticket, cos' given the meltdown in the vote a dual ticket could prove disasterous.
Almost 21k. first preferences vapourised into more than 7k.....Frightening.

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Yet she goes on the TV today and talks about a chance of two seats - The problem is that spin and lies are now the default reaction to every question - If they can 66% of the seats with 20% of the vote maybe she should be Minister for Finance

I remember back in the day (07 and prior) - Our dinner party ended up breaking bread with her entourage
"Town bar and Grill" if Im not mistaken - We were 8 and she was 6 and everyone else had left
Jokes and speeches and toasts became mingled - It is fair to say that she could speak more "colourfully" than a bad tempered farmer talking to a contrary bull but maybe that means that Agri was always her best brief.




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Post  Boxtyeater Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:40 pm

OMAR wrote:[I remember back in the day (07 and prior) - Our dinner party ended up breaking bread with her entourage
"Town bar and Grill" if Im not mistaken - We were 8 and she was 6 and everyone else had left
Jokes and speeches and toasts became mingled - It is fair to say that she could speak more "colourfully" than a bad tempered farmer talking to a contrary bull but maybe that means that Agri was always her best brief.


Boxty has memories of our local Seanadóirs daughter's wedding in the Slieve Russell on hurling final eve 2008.....After a bitéén of light banter in a side bar, coupled with a few "top shelves", Boxty plunged the Tánaiste to the floor...She has a step on her whatever her other faults may be....... Laughing
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Post  Peter Solan the Great Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:02 pm

Boxtyeater wrote:
OMAR wrote:[I remember back in the day (07 and prior) - Our dinner party ended up breaking bread with her entourage
"Town bar and Grill" if Im not mistaken - We were 8 and she was 6 and everyone else had left
Jokes and speeches and toasts became mingled - It is fair to say that she could speak more "colourfully" than a bad tempered farmer talking to a contrary bull but maybe that means that Agri was always her best brief.


Boxty has memories of our local Seanadóirs daughter's wedding in the Slieve Russell on hurling final eve 2008.....After a bitéén of light banter in a side bar, coupled with a few "top shelves", Boxty plunged the Tánaiste to the floor...She has a step on her whatever her other faults may be....... Laughing

She was looking rough the next morning.

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Post  mullins Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:19 pm

Peter Solan the Great wrote:
Boxtyeater wrote:
OMAR wrote:[I remember back in the day (07 and prior) - Our dinner party ended up breaking bread with her entourage
"Town bar and Grill" if Im not mistaken - We were 8 and she was 6 and everyone else had left
Jokes and speeches and toasts became mingled - It is fair to say that she could speak more "colourfully" than a bad tempered farmer talking to a contrary bull but maybe that means that Agri was always her best brief.


Boxty has memories of our local Seanadóirs daughter's wedding in the Slieve Russell on hurling final eve 2008.....After a bitéén of light banter in a side bar, coupled with a few "top shelves", Boxty plunged the Tánaiste to the floor...She has a step on her whatever her other faults may be....... Laughing

She was looking rough the next morning.

affraid affraid Is that a bird ,no its a man ,no its a failed finna failed mister jerry

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Post  Boxtyeater Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:29 pm

Boxty wouldn't have been at his romantic best either.....But my fookin' beard wasn't that big then....(Pic taken in '07 I'd say)... Suspect

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Post  mullins Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:32 pm

Boxtyeater wrote:Boxty wouldn't have been at his romantic best either.....But my fookin' beard wasn't that big then....(Pic taken in '07 I'd say)... Suspect

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Post  Boxtyeater Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:46 pm

No..I shall be at the Mart in Mohill if you must know..Reckoning the fodder stocks, I feel I could squeeze in possibly 3 or 4 weanlings over a 4 month span..
Its all about value Mullins...."The day you buy your bullock is the day you sell him"....The initial expenditure dictates the margin...
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Post  mullins Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:51 pm

Boxtyeater wrote:No..I shall be at the Mart in Mohill if you must know..Reckoning the fodder stocks, I feel I could squeeze in possibly 3 or 4 weanlings over a 4 month span..
Its all about value Mullins...."The day you buy your bullock is the day you sell him"....The initial expenditure dictates the margin...

What about the grants for keeping the bullocks.. @
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Post  Boxtyeater Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:22 am

[quote="mullins"]
Boxtyeater wrote:No..I shall be at the Mart in Mohill if you must know..Reckoning the fodder stocks, I feel I could squeeze in possibly 3 or 4 weanlings over a 4 month span..
Its all about value Mullins...."The day you buy your bullock is the day you sell him"....The initial expenditure dictates the margin...

What about the grants for keeping the bullocks.. @ [/quot

What about the grants for them then. Question Is there much grass (apart from. Question ) in your manor?? Vets bills aren't on the "Medical Card".....
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