Re: Ulster SF Championship Final 2010

**bocerty** Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:34 pm

One of the funniest things of the day was a guy behind me (a Tyrone fan of Jayo's vinatage 60+ who spent the whole game asking everyone round him who the players were as he had no idea who was wearing what number)

Anyway one time below us the Meath ref got a call wrong in not awarding a free to Tyrone - your man behind me shouts "even Sludden would have seen that one" the whole place erupted in laughter.

Then a while later the ref was giving Monaghan what looked like a few handy frees your man lets rip again with "don't you forget we handed you a Leinster title last week on a plate - its time you returned the favour" again the whole place could do nothing but laugh.

**mid-mon man** Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:52 pm

Very, very disappointed with that display yesterday, we just could never get into the game, mainly because Tyrone wouldn't allow it. We were full of optimism going into the game, thinking we had a team capable of overcoming Tyrone and we could win that elusive Ulster title, but it wasn't to be.

Everything went wrong that possibly could, injuries, silly mistakes, players slipping all over the place and the like. We couldn't deliver any quality ball into our danger forwards, but they weren't making the runs and were impossible to locate. As the game wore on it got harder and harder to find scores, any time we got near Tyrone's 45m line there were a swarm of red jerseys surrounding us and alot of the time they recovered the ball and went down to score on the break. The workrate from Tyrone here was outstanding, and the defence watertight. One pundits comparison with a boa constrictor was apt(Spillane maybe?), the longer the game went on they suffocated and squeezed the life out of us and our heads dropped. Tyrone are still very much one of the teams to beat and there's no chance of anyone outside the "big 3" landing Sam this year imo. Tyrone are well set up to retain Sam I think.

Vinny Corey was a huge loss in our attacking efforts, so often he is the platform from centre-back where we launch our attacks and he really drives the team on. Having said that Hughes was one of our better performers on the day. The big names up front didn't perform and a similar show against Kildare will certainly see us out of the championship. It'll be very tough to pick up the pieces now in a few days and meet Kildare on Saturday and them in flying form. Vinny probably won't make it back and JP Mone is out which is a massive loss, the two of them out of defence leaves a big gap. Shane Duffy looked to have a relapse of his troubling quad injury towards the end of the game and Darren Hughes went over on his ankle, though he should be alright. Finlay went off with a niggling injury too I believe. But the hardest thing will be getting the lads' heads right for Kildare, if they aren't up for it Kildare will walk over them. I still think we are capable of beating Kildare but Ulster was the big goal this year, you'd question how much they want to play on after that shattering defeat yesterday.

**GAA-Fan** Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:56 pm

mid-mon man wrote:Very, very disappointed with that display yesterday, we just could never get into the game, mainly because Tyrone wouldn't allow it. We were full of optimism going into the game, thinking we had a team capable of overcoming Tyrone and we could win that elusive Ulster title, but it wasn't to be.

Everything went wrong that possibly could, injuries, silly mistakes, players slipping all over the place and the like. We couldn't deliver any quality ball into our danger forwards, but they weren't making the runs and were impossible to locate. As the game wore on it got harder and harder to find scores, any time we got near Tyrone's 45m line there were a swarm of red jerseys surrounding us and alot of the time they recovered the ball and went down to score on the break. The workrate from Tyrone here was outstanding, and the defence watertight. One pundits comparison with a boa constrictor was apt(Spillane maybe?), the longer the game went on they suffocated and squeezed the life out of us and our heads dropped. Tyrone are still very much one of the teams to beat and there's no chance of anyone outside the "big 3" landing Sam this year imo. Tyrone are well set up to retain Sam I think.

Vinny Corey was a huge loss in our attacking efforts, so often he is the platform from centre-back where we launch our attacks and he really drives the team on. Having said that Hughes was one of our better performers on the day. The big names up front didn't perform and a similar show against Kildare will certainly see us out of the championship. It'll be very tough to pick up the pieces now in a few days and meet Kildare on Saturday and them in flying form. Vinny probably won't make it back and JP Mone is out which is a massive loss, the two of them out of defence leaves a big gap. Shane Duffy looked to have a relapse of his troubling quad injury towards the end of the game and Darren Hughes went over on his ankle, though he should be alright. Finlay went off with a niggling injury too I believe. But the hardest thing will be getting the lads' heads right for Kildare, if they aren't up for it Kildare will walk over them. I still think we are capable of beating Kildare but Ulster was the big goal this year, you'd question how much they want to play on after that shattering defeat yesterday.

**Jayo Cluxton** Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:59 pm

mid-mon man wrote:One pundits comparison with a boa constrictor was apt(Spillane maybe?), the longer the game went on they suffocated and squeezed the life out of us and our heads dropped.

Think it was Spillane ... though the gobdaw thought the snake was an anaconda! Ulster SF Championship Final 2010 - Page 3 Icon_eek

**mid-mon man** Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:36 pm

GAA-Fan wrote:
mid-mon man wrote:Very, very disappointed with that display yesterday, we just could never get into the game, mainly because Tyrone wouldn't allow it. We were full of optimism going into the game, thinking we had a team capable of overcoming Tyrone and we could win that elusive Ulster title, but it wasn't to be.

Everything went wrong that possibly could, injuries, silly mistakes, players slipping all over the place and the like. We couldn't deliver any quality ball into our danger forwards, but they weren't making the runs and were impossible to locate. As the game wore on it got harder and harder to find scores, any time we got near Tyrone's 45m line there were a swarm of red jerseys surrounding us and alot of the time they recovered the ball and went down to score on the break. The workrate from Tyrone here was outstanding, and the defence watertight. One pundits comparison with a boa constrictor was apt(Spillane maybe?), the longer the game went on they suffocated and squeezed the life out of us and our heads dropped. Tyrone are still very much one of the teams to beat and there's no chance of anyone outside the "big 3" landing Sam this year imo. Tyrone are well set up to retain Sam I think.

Vinny Corey was a huge loss in our attacking efforts, so often he is the platform from centre-back where we launch our attacks and he really drives the team on. Having said that Hughes was one of our better performers on the day. The big names up front didn't perform and a similar show against Kildare will certainly see us out of the championship. It'll be very tough to pick up the pieces now in a few days and meet Kildare on Saturday and them in flying form. Vinny probably won't make it back and JP Mone is out which is a massive loss, the two of them out of defence leaves a big gap. Shane Duffy looked to have a relapse of his troubling quad injury towards the end of the game and Darren Hughes went over on his ankle, though he should be alright. Finlay went off with a niggling injury too I believe. But the hardest thing will be getting the lads' heads right for Kildare, if they aren't up for it Kildare will walk over them. I still think we are capable of beating Kildare but Ulster was the big goal this year, you'd question how much they want to play on after that shattering defeat yesterday.

Retain as in win it back from Kerry I mean! They have much tougher tests ahead of course but they can improve alot too, they missed a good few chances in the first half.

**Loyal2TheRoyal** Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:40 pm

Regain or Retain?

**mid-mon man** Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:41 pm

Win lets say!

**patrique** Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:05 pm

Oosthuizen won the golf in an exciting finish, in comparison to some events it was gripping.

**patrique** Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:07 pm

On a serious note 20 people polled at work today and all said "it's hard to watch" or words to that effect.

Already most of Ulster are trying to copy the Tyrone game plan without success, which explains why Ulster football is at an all time low.

Even in its darkest days you had cavan and antrim.

Now......

**bocerty** Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:39 pm

patrique wrote:On a serious note 20 people polled at work today and all said "it's hard to watch" or words to that effect.

Already most of Ulster are trying to copy the Tyrone game plan without success, which explains why Ulster football is at an all time low.

Even in its darkest days you had cavan and antrim.

Now......

do you poll the staff at work after every game Patrique or just talking schite as usual

**mugsys_barber** Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:49 pm

patrique wrote:On a serious note 20 people polled at work today and all said "it's hard to watch" or words to that effect.

Already most of Ulster are trying to copy the Tyrone game plan without success, which explains why Ulster football is at an all time low.

Even in its darkest days you had cavan and antrim.

Now......

I totally agree with you there P, I could never fathom how anyone could sit and watch golf all day long, I'd rather saw my hand off with a rusty breadknife as watch that schite sir.

**bocerty** Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:50 pm

patrique wrote:Oosthuizen won the golf in an exciting finish, in comparison to some events it was gripping.

the golf was won on Saturday, Sunday was just going through the motions how the f**k would you call that exciting

**patrique** Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:41 pm

bocerty wrote:
patrique wrote:Oosthuizen won the golf in an exciting finish, in comparison to some events it was gripping.

the golf was won on Saturday, Sunday was just going through the motions how the f**k would you call that exciting

I used it as a comparator to other sport that was showing on ordinary TV on Sunday.

And remember I do not have RTE anymore.

And it was Mickey McGee who had the poll, and he was the first to say "hard to watch....a sweeper...Bechenbaur......"

They are selling the "Highlights" (sic) as a cure for insomnia.

And just because Tyrone are having a poor season no need to get frustrated and start swearing on here....

Guest Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:01 pm

the ulster final was a big disappoitment for tyrone , tyrone will get no benefit from this i really thought that monaghan might have at least put up a game to tyrone , but tyrone never even let monaghan get started so ulster was weak this year look at the other three finals all close on the teams got well tested and know where they are , as for tyrone well they have done what they had to do and would have won by more yesterday if they wanted i would say mickey harte is disappointed with monaghan as he would have wanted a tighter contest but it was not to be , and when i say ulster is weak i dont mean tyrone i mean how the other teams have not fulfilled their potential and made it difficult for tyrone , so tyrone will keep moving forward and who ever beats them will win sam

**bocerty** Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:08 pm

patrique wrote:
bocerty wrote:
patrique wrote:Oosthuizen won the golf in an exciting finish, in comparison to some events it was gripping.

the golf was won on Saturday, Sunday was just going through the motions how the f**k would you call that exciting

I used it as a comparator to other sport that was showing on ordinary TV on Sunday.

And remember I do not have RTE anymore.

And it was Mickey McGee who had the poll, and he was the first to say "hard to watch....a sweeper...Bechenbaur......"

They are selling the "Highlights" (sic) as a cure for insomnia.

And just because Tyrone are having a poor season no need to get frustrated and start swearing on here....

they could use some of your posts instead P they would be much more effective believe me - because its the same waffle regurgitated over and over again - and believe me i am far from frustrated, i just find it amusing that you find a tournament were the winner was known a day before it ended exciting.

Your idea of exciting football is were we all go out gung ho play attractive football and ultimately hand SAM to Kerry every year - football has moved on and like or not its not likely to change in the foreseeable future.

**patrique** Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:28 am

[quote="bocerty"]

patrique wrote:
bocerty wrote:
patrique wrote:Oosthuizen won the golf in an exciting finish, in comparison to some events it was gripping.

the golf was won on Saturday, Sunday was just going through the motions how the f**k would you call that exciting

I used it as a comparator to other sport that was showing on ordinary TV on Sunday.

And remember I do not have RTE anymore.

And it was Mickey McGee who had the poll, and he was the first to say "hard to watch....a sweeper...Bechenbaur......"

They are selling the "Highlights" (sic) as a cure for insomnia.

And just because Tyrone are having a poor season no need to get frustrated and start swearing on here....

they could use some of your posts instead P they would be much more effective believe me - because its the same waffle regurgitated over and over again - and believe me i am far from frustrated, i just find it amusing that you find a tournament were the winner was known a day before it ended exciting.

Your idea of exciting football is were we all go out gung ho play attractive football and ultimately hand SAM to Kerry every year - football has moved on and like or not its not likely to change in the foreseeable future.[/quote

I knew the winner of the Ulster football championship in January, the same as most people.

I try to keep up.

The golf? Van der Valde spring to mind?

**bocerty** Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:23 am

Just watched the game in full including analysis - not sure if it is just me but the camera men on Sunday need a good kick in the town halls, i never seen worse camera work in my life, i missed half the fooking game because they insisted on showing endless replays. The match was definitely a better spectacle to watch live than was portrayed on the TV.

Some posters (well one in particular) went out of his way to point out the Tyrone misdemeanors but conveniently forgot to mention some of the abuse the Tyrone players took. Damian Freeman was a lucky man to have stayed on the field as was Darren Hughes, he took Cavanagh out of it at one stage after the whistle went and got away with it and was booked a short time later.

**mugsys_barber** Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:42 pm

I used it as a comparator to other sport that was showing on ordinary TV on Sunday.

And remember I do not have RTE anymore.

And it was Mickey McGee who had the poll, and he was the first to say "hard to watch....a sweeper...Bechenbaur......"

They are selling the "Highlights" (sic) as a cure for insomnia.

And just because Tyrone are having a poor season no need to get frustrated and start swearing on here....[/quote]

There are probably two reasonable explainations as to why Magee would say something like that P.

A) He now finds the games hard to watch now as a supporter having been part of the Tyrone squad from about 2001 or so. A similar comment was made by some lad O'Se from Kerry who retired last year on becoming a bona fied spectator.
or
B) Magee was an occupant of one of the local shabeen's in round Loughmacrory that has very poor RTE reception as i can personally testify so therefore explaining the very hard to watch comment.

So whether its been seen as either very hard to watch due to recent seclusion or poor coverage We'll be very hard to beat in the impending weeks and months Ulster SF Championship Final 2010 - Page 3 Icon_biggrin

I would concur with the comments made by Bocerty regarding the camera work in Clones on Sunday. Having now also watched the entire game on the telly the camera work was very poor in comparison to the Connaught football final.

**patrique** Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:46 pm

bocerty wrote:Just watched the game in full including analysis - not sure if it is just me but the camera men on Sunday need a good kick in the town halls, i never seen worse camera work in my life, i missed half the fooking game because they insisted on showing endless replays. The match was definitely a better spectacle to watch live than was portrayed on the TV.

Some posters (well one in particular) went out of his way to point out the Tyrone misdemeanors but conveniently forgot to mention some of the abuse the Tyrone players took. Damian Freeman was a lucky man to have stayed on the field as was Darren Hughes, he took Cavanagh out of it at one stage after the whistle went and got away with it and was booked a short time later.

So now we at least agree that it WAS HARD TO WATCH as everyone said. Most saw it on TV as not too many went to Clones.

And I was not condemning Tyrone misdemeanours. I was merely commentating that they must spend hours of practice at it, and that this attention to detail is noteworthy.

**mugsys_barber** Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:19 pm

Yeah I suppose 34,634 people attending a match is poor enough in comparison to the gargantuan attendances that have been the norm in this years championship across the nation. I was also surprised at the number of bandwagon Farney supporters i had the pleasure of mixing with prior to the game that had never been to Clones before. It was almost on a par with the Saffron army of 2009 Ulster SF Championship Final 2010 - Page 3 Icon_lol

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