The wearing of poppies
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The wearing of poppies
How do posters feel about Irish people wearing rememberance poppies.
Personally I find the outright universal opposition to it that seems to prevail here a bit startling to be honest espicially when you see notice many of the people so stringintly opposed to it couldn't live a day without British culture. Is it wrong to remember fellow Irish men and women who gave their lives in WW1 and WW2 and other important wars gone by?
Personally I find the outright universal opposition to it that seems to prevail here a bit startling to be honest espicially when you see notice many of the people so stringintly opposed to it couldn't live a day without British culture. Is it wrong to remember fellow Irish men and women who gave their lives in WW1 and WW2 and other important wars gone by?
mossbags- GAA Elite
- Galway
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I think the opposition has eased up a bit here though some would still find it less embarrassing to be seen wearing nappies than poppies ...
Jayo Cluxton- GAA Elite
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mossbags wrote:How do posters feel about Irish people wearing rememberance poppies.
Personally I find the outright universal opposition to it that seems to prevail here a bit startling to be honest espicially when you see notice many of the people so stringintly opposed to it couldn't live a day without British culture. Is it wrong to remember fellow Irish men and women who gave their lives in WW1 and WW2 and other important wars gone by?
wear one if you want but you should not be forced to like the BBC staff
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Maybe if somebody had a realitive who died during WW1 I wouldn't mind them wearing one show their respect for them.
I think we should maybe have something in Ireland to celebrate Ireland's independance from British rule. In my opinion the 6th December the day which Ireland declared itself a free state or some day at the end of April should be a national holiday,just like Bastile day in France and the 4th of July in America.
I think we should maybe have something in Ireland to celebrate Ireland's independance from British rule. In my opinion the 6th December the day which Ireland declared itself a free state or some day at the end of April should be a national holiday,just like Bastile day in France and the 4th of July in America.
clash-of-da-ash- GAA Hero
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clash-of-da-ash wrote:Maybe if somebody had a realitive who died during WW1 I wouldn't mind them wearing one show their respect for them.
I think we should maybe have something in Ireland to celebrate Ireland's independance from British rule. In my opinion the 6th December the day which Ireland declared itself a free state or some day at the end of April should be a national holiday,just like Bastile day in France and the 4th of July in America.
yeah, you can celebrate it with the huns up here. The day of partition is nothing to celebrate in my opinion
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I personally find that most people in the North who wear them do so to cause offence to the catholic community - they are wore in the place of work to antagonise and provoke reactions and yet if i was to wear a shamrock or put a Tyrone flag/sticker on my car i would be asked to remove it or would be reported for being secterian.
bocerty- Moderator
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bocerty wrote:Iif i was to wear a shamrock or put a Tyrone flag/sticker on my car .
I wouldn't put a Tyrone sticker on my car even if the mirror was hanging off ...
Jayo Cluxton- GAA Elite
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Jayo Cluxton wrote:bocerty wrote:Iif i was to wear a shamrock or put a Tyrone flag/sticker on my car .
I wouldn't put a Tyrone sticker on my car even if the mirror was hanging off ...
i figured after your run in with the pillar there were no f**king mirrors on your car
bocerty- Moderator
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bocerty wrote:Jayo Cluxton wrote:bocerty wrote:Iif i was to wear a shamrock or put a Tyrone flag/sticker on my car .
I wouldn't put a Tyrone sticker on my car even if the mirror was hanging off ...
i figured after your run in with the pillar there were no f**king mirrors on your car
Yeah well I bought a female model car and so there was no mirrors on it ... And the pillar is well dead now ... and the garage ... and the wall, the windows, the floor - its like the Europa Hotel in the 70s!
Jayo Cluxton- GAA Elite
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Jayo Cluxton wrote:bocerty wrote:Jayo Cluxton wrote:bocerty wrote:Iif i was to wear a shamrock or put a Tyrone flag/sticker on my car .
I wouldn't put a Tyrone sticker on my car even if the mirror was hanging off ...
i figured after your run in with the pillar there were no f**king mirrors on your car
Yeah well I bought a female model car and so there was no mirrors on it ... And the pillar is well dead now ... and the garage ... and the wall, the windows, the floor - its like the Europa Hotel in the 70s!
what happened did someone crash a lorry into your house and cause €3000 worth of improvements
bocerty- Moderator
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bocerty wrote:I personally find that most people in the North who wear them do so to cause offence to the catholic community - they are wore in the place of work to antagonise and provoke reactions and yet if i was to wear a shamrock or put a Tyrone flag/sticker on my car i would be asked to remove it or would be reported for being secterian.
Its always different in the North I suppose. What gets me is people down here who think their making a stand against imperialism by denouncing those who only wish to remember brave Irish soldiers who gave their lives fighting against the likes of Hitler, Mussolini etc. These same people watch the premiership every week, listen to English bands and only speak the English language. Idiots, in a word.
mossbags- GAA Elite
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mossbags wrote:bocerty wrote:I personally find that most people in the North who wear them do so to cause offence to the catholic community - they are wore in the place of work to antagonise and provoke reactions and yet if i was to wear a shamrock or put a Tyrone flag/sticker on my car i would be asked to remove it or would be reported for being secterian.
Its always different in the North I suppose. What gets me is people down here who think their making a stand against imperialism by denouncing those who only wish to remember brave Irish soldiers who gave their lives fighting against the likes of Hitler, Mussolini etc. These same people watch the premiership every week, listen to English bands and only speak the English language. Idiots, in a word.
the wearing of poppies also commemerate soldiers in the north who randomly beat people, shot innocent people dead, searched and harrassed people, etc etc etc. if it was all about the first and second world war id be tempted to wear one myself.
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samin10 wrote:mossbags wrote:bocerty wrote:I personally find that most people in the North who wear them do so to cause offence to the catholic community - they are wore in the place of work to antagonise and provoke reactions and yet if i was to wear a shamrock or put a Tyrone flag/sticker on my car i would be asked to remove it or would be reported for being secterian.
Its always different in the North I suppose. What gets me is people down here who think their making a stand against imperialism by denouncing those who only wish to remember brave Irish soldiers who gave their lives fighting against the likes of Hitler, Mussolini etc. These same people watch the premiership every week, listen to English bands and only speak the English language. Idiots, in a word.
the wearing of poppies also commemerate soldiers in the north who randomly beat people, shot innocent people dead, searched and harrassed people, etc etc etc. if it was all about the first and second world war id be tempted to wear one myself.
the majority of people who wear them dont even know why they are wearing them or what they represent - these same people see donning a poppie as the equivalent of wearing a Rangers/Linfield jersey - its done as a show of 'strength' so to speak, its like look at me i'm a hard-line loyalist .............
bocerty- Moderator
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The wearing of poppies is a fine and honourable tradition however (like many things) it has been hijacked by some of the unionist community in the North and it treated as an in-your-face symbol of "Britishness".
All in all though, it's a fairly small annoyance compared to others. If they are that insecure about their identity and culture then it's a sad reflection on them.
All in all though, it's a fairly small annoyance compared to others. If they are that insecure about their identity and culture then it's a sad reflection on them.
RMDrive- GAA Elite
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Illuminating reflections there from ye lads. Samins comment in particular would give me serious cause to pause.
mossbags- GAA Elite
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mossbags wrote:Illuminating reflections there from ye lads. Samins comment in particular would give me serious cause to pause.
i think Samins comment is very accurate and i would agree 100% with him, i once worked with a protestant who wore theirs religiously but it was done to antagonise the Catholics at work pure deep hatred and nothing else.
Though i do agree with RMD - i never let it annoy me in fact i laugh at some of the clowns that wear them, they are all pro Ulster etc etc and the 26 counties are to be spat at as far as they are concerned as they are all Pro IRA, yet they are not a bit afraid to head across the border to get cheap diesel/petrol
bocerty- Moderator
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I think Samins comments are bang on in my opinion, when you wear a poppy you not only pay you respects to the men and women that fought in the great wars (if it was only for this i would have no problem wearing one) however it also represents the soldiers that shot and tortured innocent Irish Catholic during the Norths conflict.
Perhaps it's time for the Irish Government to bring out their own version of the poppy so we can actually pay our respects to the Irish men and women who gave their lives in the 2 great wars. As i've said, i'd have no problem wearing something that shows my gratitude for their bravery but i will never show my gratitude for the soldiers that done what they did in the Conflict of the North!
Perhaps it's time for the Irish Government to bring out their own version of the poppy so we can actually pay our respects to the Irish men and women who gave their lives in the 2 great wars. As i've said, i'd have no problem wearing something that shows my gratitude for their bravery but i will never show my gratitude for the soldiers that done what they did in the Conflict of the North!
bald eagle- GAA Hero
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GAA-Fan wrote:They tried making me wear one at school. I refused and was suspended.
I remember several years ago Donna Treanor who is a news reader on BBC refused to wear one - she was threatened with a suspension and forced to wear one - why we need people who are on tv to wear them i dont know, i dont notice too many of them wearing shamrocks or Easter Lillies
bocerty- Moderator
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I watch very little TV but I think they are forced to wear Shamrock as well. As for Easter Lilies, licking them to get them to STICK on is dangerous at times of swine flu.
Wear a poppy if you want. My objection to a charity for wounded and dead soldiers is that the Governments who sent them out to fight for "freedom" or whatever, should look after them if they get hurt or killed.
Some idiots do wear them to annoy so called nationalists, but thankfully the number of idiots on both sides is dwindling.
Wear a poppy if you want. My objection to a charity for wounded and dead soldiers is that the Governments who sent them out to fight for "freedom" or whatever, should look after them if they get hurt or killed.
Some idiots do wear them to annoy so called nationalists, but thankfully the number of idiots on both sides is dwindling.
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