Re: All Ireland Minor Hurling Championship

**The Puke** on Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:54 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:2011 Dublin 2-18 Meath 1-11
2010 Longford 0-14 Offaly 0-08
2009 Dublin 1-10 1-15 Kildare 1-10 1-10
2008 Meath 1-14 Offaly 2-10
2007 Laois 3-08 Carlow 1-12
2006 Meath 1-16 Offaly 2-05
2005 Laois 1-12 Offaly 1-07
2004 Laois 0-10 Kildare 0-06
2003 Dublin 1-11 Laois 1-09
2002 Longford 3-08 Meath 3-05
2001 Dublin 1-17 Offaly 0-06
2000 Westmeath 2-09 Dublin 1-10

8 counties out of 12 - 5 different winners

2011 Tipperary 3-11 Cork 1-09
2010 Cork 1-07 Kerry 1-06
2009 Kerry 0-12 Tipperary 0-06
2008 Kerry 1-09 2-12 Tipperary 1-09 0-08
2007 Cork 1-16 Kerry 2-08
2006 Kerry 1-13 Tipperary 0-08
2005 Cork 3-08 Kerry 1-11
2004 Kerry 0-09 0-13 Cork 0-09 1-07
2003 Kerry 1-14 Cork 0-10
2002 Kerry 3-16 Tipperary 2-06
2001 Kerry 0-15 Cork 0-12
2000 Cork 1-13 Kerry 0-14

Not a sign of Clare, Waterford or Limerick.

2011 Roscommon 1-09 Galway 0-06
2010 Mayo 3-09 Galway 1-10
2009 Mayo 1-05 1-08 Roscommon 0-08 0-05
2008 Mayo 0-10 Roscommon 0-07
2007 Galway 2-07 Roscommon 0-09
2006 Roscommon 0-12 Mayo 0-09
2005 Galway 0-10 Mayo 0-09
2004 Galway 3-10 Roscommon 2-10
2003 Galway 1-09 Mayo 0-09
2002 Galway 1-12 Leitrim 0-06
2001 Mayo 1-08 0-15 Galway 0-11 0-11
2000 Mayo 1-12 Roscommon 1-08

No sign of Sligo - one from Leitrim.

2011 Cavan 0-12 Armagh 1-06
2010 Tyrone 1-14 Armagh 0-05
2009 Armagh 1-08 Down 1-05
2008 Tyrone 0-13 Monaghan 0-10
2007 Tyrone 0-10 Derry 1-06
2006 Donegal 2-12 Antrim 1-05
2005 Armagh 0-11 Down 0-10
2004 Tyrone 0-11 0-15 Down 0-11 0-8
2003 Tyrone 3-09 Fermanagh 0-09
2002 Derry 0-12 Tyrone 0-11
2001 Tyrone 2-13 Monaghan 0-13
2000 Derry 2-11 Tyrone 1-11

All counties have been in the final since 2000

Now Puke - fook off and don't be bothering me.

Again how do you know that that standard is better you just seem to keep making generalisations and have nothing to back it up, of course you are going to have a better spread of winners in a competition that has twice as many teams but you seem to dismiss Munster out of hand yet you are lauding the Leinster champioship despite the fact that the Dubs aside the rest of the provinces record at A/I level is poor to say the least. and again it brings me back to my initial point which you are still failing to comprehend, success at underage level is reletive and shouldn't be just measured in A/I titles and to dismiss Kerry at underage due to the fact that they have been far more successful at senior level is myopic thinking and shows a complete lack of understanding of player development. i doubt anyone in Wexford or Cavan or Tipp last year were calling their under 21 sides this year unsuccessful because they didn't win the A/I, so why should it be different for Kerry. Their underage record is as good as what is in the country and your initial point was trying to make out that they were also rans at underage level which they most certainly not

**Jayo Cluxton** on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:10 pm

I'll try once more.

Kerry stats (All Ireland winners) since 1997.

Minor: None
U21: 98, 08.
Senior: 97, 04, 06, 07 09.

Wow - fair play to Kerry who have won 4 All Irelands in the Noughties with little relative underage success at AI level. Just shows you underage success is not everything and does not guarantee senior success.

**Jayo Cluxton** on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:19 pm

Anyway back to the thread. Dublin to have too much for Galway in the Final ....

**clash-of-da-ash** on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:06 am

A repeat of the 83 final when a certain Niall Quinn was man-of-the-match despite ending up on the losing side. The Galway side contained the likes of Cooney, Cunningham and McInerney.

**Jayo Cluxton** on Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:28 pm

This is a very strong minor team - in every sense. Expecting them to deliver and their U21 counterparts to emulate ....

**The Puke** on Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:23 pm

The Puke wrote:Semi final line up is

Dublin V Waterford

&

Clare v Galway

The Clare V Galway match is the final in all but name and whoever wins will go on and win the all ireland, the two best teams in this years championship by a distance

As was proven today

**Jayo Cluxton** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:18 am

The Puke wrote:
The Puke wrote:Semi final line up is

Dublin V Waterford

&

Clare v Galway

The Clare V Galway match is the final in all but name and whoever wins will go on and win the all ireland, the two best teams in this years championship by a distance

As was proven today

Fair play to Galway - far better side - posted reply on trilogy thread.

ps Puke there are about 99% of your hurling posts that you never 'quote' cos they are so wrong. You are bound to get one right every now and then. Rolling Eyes

**The Puke** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:14 am

Jayo

Serious quetion for you now.

Seeing as you made such a song and dance about Kerry having no underage success and the Munster minor football title not being worth a jot, would you consider the same to be true of the Leinster minor hurling title given that Kilkenny are the only side of any real quality that dublin have to contend with in it, much like Cork in the munster football. Offaly are a long way back while Wexford for the last deacde have been quite poor at minor level for the most part and the rest are well off the required standard. Given that Dublin have done very little once they have gotten outside of Leinster despite appearing in 5 of the last 8 Leinster finals, it certainly gives credence to the arguement.

**mullins** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:33 pm

Disappointed to lose in the minor final yesterday,but my heartiest congratulations to Galway they really played well from 1 to 15 and subs,and of course guided by the maestro Mattie Murphy,It just Didn't happen for Dublin we really are struggling to bridge the gap in finals with the big guns...

As i said during the week nerves might play a big part in our downfall ,Sadly yesterday it was plain to see our first touch was awful...We took the wrong options and had a lot of wide's early on....the ball in to the forwards was poor...And Galway destroyed us in the air

Have to say i thought the ref was very poor yesterday,we couldn't buy a free in the first half 9/1 free count sounds very suspect....

Well as Moss said during the week ifs don't win All Ireland's but they certainly lose them..Making the final was a great Achievement .. by the young Dubs but sadly it just wasn't their day..

**Jayo Cluxton** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:37 pm

The Puke wrote:Jayo

Serious quetion for you now.

Seeing as you made such a song and dance about Kerry having no underage success and the Munster minor football title not being worth a jot, would you consider the same to be true of the Leinster minor hurling title given that Kilkenny are the only side of any real quality that dublin have to contend with in it, much like Cork in the munster football. Offaly are a long way back while Wexford for the last deacde have been quite poor at minor level for the most part and the rest are well off the required standard. Given that Dublin have done very little once they have gotten outside of Leinster despite appearing in 5 of the last 8 Leinster finals, it certainly gives credence to the arguement.

But hurling at senior level has been the exact same for years. You might as well say the same about the Leinster senior champ as it is only Kilkenny. I have no problem with that. Our minors hammered Waterford in the semi - dunno what that says.

**The Puke** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:41 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:
The Puke wrote:Jayo

Serious quetion for you now.

Seeing as you made such a song and dance about Kerry having no underage success and the Munster minor football title not being worth a jot, would you consider the same to be true of the Leinster minor hurling title given that Kilkenny are the only side of any real quality that dublin have to contend with in it, much like Cork in the munster football. Offaly are a long way back while Wexford for the last deacde have been quite poor at minor level for the most part and the rest are well off the required standard. Given that Dublin have done very little once they have gotten outside of Leinster despite appearing in 5 of the last 8 Leinster finals, it certainly gives credence to the arguement.

But hurling at senior level has been the exact same for years. You might as well say the same about the Leinster senior champ as it is only Kilkenny. I have no problem with that. Our minors hammered Waterford in the semi - dunno what that says.

And Kerry have won plenty of knock out games in the all ireland minor series since the backdoor was introduced yet you had no problem dismissing that

**Jayo Cluxton** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:00 pm

[quote="The Puke"][quote="Jayo Cluxton"]

The Puke wrote:And Kerry have won plenty of knock out games in the all ireland minor series since the backdoor was introduced yet you had no problem dismissing that

I thought this was all about them winning the Munster champ so what has backdoor got to do with it??? scratch

You have me confused now.

**The Puke** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:04 pm

[quote="Jayo Cluxton"][quote="The Puke"]

Jayo Cluxton wrote:
The Puke wrote:And Kerry have won plenty of knock out games in the all ireland minor series since the backdoor was introduced yet you had no problem dismissing that

I thought this was all about them winning the Munster champ so what has backdoor got to do with it??? You have me confused now.

Since the backdoor came in there are more games in the All Ireland series, thought that was obvious.

**Jayo Cluxton** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:07 pm

Its only one extra game for provincial champs. And they still haven't won much - don't see your point at all.

**The Puke** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:12 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:Its only one extra game for provincial champs. And they still haven't won much - don't see your point at all.

My point is that I don't think anyone would try and say that Dublin haven't been successful in recent years at minor level despite not winning an A/I, you were at pains to make a point that Kerry have had no success at minor level and dismiss their provinical wins but as I said before success is subjective and just because a team isn't winning A/I's at minor level doesn't mean that they are also rans. Your poor logic in the kerry example could be applied to minor hurling to discredit Dublin's recent underage achievements and dismiss their provincial wins but it wouldn't be true.

I am simply trying to educate you and trying to show you the error of your ways but alas you seem too beef headed as usual to acknowledge this. sure what is new

**Jayo Cluxton** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:24 pm

Not been beef headed at all. Until Dublin win an All Ireland hurling final then the provincial titles are nice but not what the players and everyone involved are striving for. You'd be a long time educating me pal.

**The Puke** on Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:41 pm

Our minors got Waterford in both the minor and 21's championship next year.

MUNSTER GAA MINOR HURLING CHAMPIONSHIP 2012

ROUND 1 May 2nd 2012
A Clare V Waterford
B Kerry v Tipperary
C Limerick v Cork
Semi Final Play Off 1 May 5th 2012
D Losers of B v Losers of C
Semi Final Play Off 2 May 10th 2012
E Winner of D v Loser of A
SEMI FINALS June 29th 2012
F Winner of A v Winner of B
G Winner of E v Winner of C
FINAL July 15th 2012
Winner of F v Winner of G

RD GAIS ENERGY MUNSTER GAA UNDER 21 HURLING CHAMPIONSHIP 2012
QUARTER FINAL June 6th 2012
A Cork v Tipperary

SEMI FINAL July 18th 2012
B Winner of A v Limerick
SEMI FINAL July 19th 2012
C Waterford v Clare
FINAL August 8th 2012
Winner of B v Winner of C

We should have home advantage for both

**hurlingguru** on Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:52 pm

Leinster G.A.A. Minor Hurling Championship 2012:

A. Tier I - Kilkenny, Dublin

B. Tier II -
1. Westmeath v Laois
2. Wexford v Offaly

C. Tier III
3. Carlow v Kildare
4 Wicklow v Meath

NEXT ROUND - WINNER OF 3 & 4 PLAY LOSER 1 AND 2
5.
6.

NEXT ROUND - A. Winner 1 and 2 drawn against Kilkenny.Dublin
B. Winner 5 and 6 play two Losers of A

Very disappointing that we have being demoted down a tier and if we lose we are out but when you look at our results last year you can't argue we should be beating the likes of Kildare.