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Post  Real Kerry Fan Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:35 pm

Brillant stuff so far Very Happy . Hope he does the job it this time.Also would love to see Padraig and Shane finish well up.
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Post  black&white Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:38 pm

Just making the cut (looks like being around +2 to +3) would be a great achievement for Lowry. He's been improving slowly in recent times, and it'd be great to see him continue on the upward curve.

Now if he can just keep himself away from Coppers.................
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Post  Jayo Cluxton Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:32 pm

-12 under thru 16!!!!!!! 9 shots clear!!
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Post  black&white Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:35 pm

Supposedly the lowest anyone has ever reached in the US Open at any stage of a round (tied with Tiger in 2000, for now)
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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:36 pm

Jayo Cluxton wrote:-12 under thru 16!!!!!!! 9 shots clear!!

Do you think he might suffer from another bout of performance anxiety JC?
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Post  black&white Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:36 pm

-13 now
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Post  Jayo Cluxton Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:45 pm

Dunno Loyal! He is so far head now that if he doesn't win even after 2 rounds there'll be eyebrows raised. Amazing stuff from the lad!
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Post  samin12 Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:38 pm

Think he is lucky that double bogey came at the 18th, gives him time to get himself together again. Think if it had of happened earlier in the round he would have S**t the bags again

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Post  patrique Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:32 pm

He is NOT leading by 8 shots after two rounds, as the two rounds have not yet been completed.

In a way I am happy he took 6 at the last because otherwise he was breaking all sorts of records.

The record low score in the US open is something like minus 5.

Last year McDowell was the ONLY player with LEVEL PAR.

He won, and that is usually the standard, anything from minus 2 to level wins.

What Rory has done to date is phenomenal.

He is that good there lies the problem. At his age when things go wrong he panics and lets it drift, as he did in the open last year in a disastrous third round. A bit of application and he could have won the thing. A bit like Ronnie O'Sullivan, that good he got angry with himself.

It would be wonderful if he could win this.........................
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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:52 pm

He looks to be doing well. I was reading elsewhere - those who you would expect might know a thing or two are comparing him to Tiger Woods.

But will he choke like he did in the US Masters? Two restless nights are in store for young Rory as the reality of victory draws nearer. Those who have displayed a tendency to do this kind of thing in the past are more likely to to do it again. But maybe he's so far ahead, he can still afford to crumble on the last day.


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Post  Thomas Clarke Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:53 pm

An outstanding performance today, and the competition is obviously now Rory's to lose. What he has done in the last 2 days seems to have gone over the heads of a couple of posters on here. Basically, he has taken apart a course on which the best golfers in the world are barely able to break par. For any sportsman to be that much better than everyone else is extremely rare.

Now, can he keep it going? Well, golf is, by a million miles, the most highly pressurised sport in the world, and the pressure on Rory will be enormous. But his game is in such good shape there is little to suggest that it will now fall apart.

Too many people have been too quick to write McIlroy off - perhaps it is a desire to see someone fail, as I can't for the life of me see how it could be on the basis of his career so far. He has just turned 22, and is younger than Jack Nicklaus when he won his first major. And Seve. And Gary Player. He is much younger than Tom Watson, Arnold Palmer, Faldo, Norman and Mickelson. Mickelson is an interesting case, acknowledged as he is as being one of the most gifted players of all time. It took Mickelson 14 years on the tour to win his first major, and he had many spectacular crashes before finally getting over the line.

McIlroy has shown already he has the talent, having led 3 of the last 4 majors, and finishing 3rd in the other. All he is lacking is the winning mentality. At his age, it is wrong to say it is choking - it is simply not knowing how to win. As Patrique says, a bit of panic or recklessness sets in but, in time, that won't happen as much. Rory is a remarkable talent who will win multiple majors. Hopefully his first is on Sunday.
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Post  patrique Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:20 pm

Mickelson is a good reference point. Always known as a choker and indeed "won" his first major when everyone else fell apart. Since then went from strength to strength.

McIlroy is a remarkable talent darren Clarke looked a natural compared to say Padraig Harrington who worked really hard and garnered the rewards fair play to him, but McIlroy has a complete game. A slight weakness might be putting, but not really a weakness, just not as good at it as the best putters perhaps, like Crenshaw in his day. But his driving and irons, something else.

American sports writers expect him to win a bag full of majors, but getting the first could be the hardest.

Leading by 6 now, and play has been abandoned.
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Post  bocerty Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:05 pm

as the yanks would say he has been totally awesome today - so follow up yesterdays good round with an even better one today is brilliant. Looks like the Devon Loch at the Masters has had no long term effect on his confidence. One suspects if he is there or thereabouts come Sunday, which is a given at this stage, he wont make the same mistakes again.

He jsut needs to keep the head tomorrow and not think about Sunday until it arrives.
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Post  patrique Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:22 pm

Always worth remembering that the man who won the Masters finished with a 66, one Schwartzel.

A bit like Greg Norman's famous collapse. Faldo did finish with a 65.
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Post  OMAR Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:46 pm

Hopefully he can keep it together tomorrow - because maybe what we have seen to day is what he needs to do to win a major - Get so far ahead that it gets to the point that there is no pressure because he is so far ahead.
and once he burys the demons he will be unstoppable.
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Post  hurlingguru Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:41 pm

Outstanding golf brilliant to watch him. I thought Harrington was going to make a charge when moving to -1 but has since had 2 bogeys. Y.E Yang hitting a few wayward drives and is battling along. A lot strong players are struggling on this course which shows how good Rory is playing. Be great to him win it will give his career a huge boost.

Another weather warning issued hopefully they will get finished in time.

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Post  patrique Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:51 am

samin12 wrote:Think he is lucky that double bogey came at the 18th, gives him time to get himself together again. Think if it had of happened earlier in the round he would have S**t the bags again



Is this based on anything?

A characteristic of McIlroy is his habit of going par,par, eagle, bogey, par, par, double bogey, birdie, birdie.

Inshort he relies on sheer talent and as yet has not shown much in the way of "course management".

So in a short career, say 800 rounds of golf, he has ONCE blown up.

And 700 times after double bogies he has not.
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Post  Jayo Cluxton Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:04 pm

Pretty amazing stuff when you look at all the big names and the scores they have been posting. Would dearly love to see Rory go on and win this - and win it in the style he has played to date. If he keeps his game together (and there is no reason why he can't) then he could be ten clear going into the last day. Yang is really the only one capable of getting near him if Rory only hits par or thereabouts for next two days. But it would be great so see him burn up the course and smash a few more records.

We can look at previous experiences and raise eyebrows but he strikes me as a young lad who learns a lot - and very quickly. He also visited Haiti this week and things like that may give him some perspective when the pressure comes on.

Keep her lit Rory!
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Post  Loyal2TheRoyal Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:38 pm

Hopefully he holds on.........
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Post  samin12 Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:09 pm

patrique wrote:
samin12 wrote:Think he is lucky that double bogey came at the 18th, gives him time to get himself together again. Think if it had of happened earlier in the round he would have S**t the bags again



Is this based on anything?

A characteristic of McIlroy is his habit of going par,par, eagle, bogey, par, par, double bogey, birdie, birdie.

Inshort he relies on sheer talent and as yet has not shown much in the way of "course management".

So in a short career, say 800 rounds of golf, he has ONCE blown up.

And 700 times after double bogies he has not.

its based on the one and only major tournament that he looked to have wrapped up with such a commanding lead and after one mistake the wheels come off big time. This is the second major tournament that he has such a commanding lead, hopefully it does not happen. Just saying that i was glad that the double bogey came at the 18th

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Post  patrique Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:51 pm

samin12 wrote:
patrique wrote:
samin12 wrote:Think he is lucky that double bogey came at the 18th, gives him time to get himself together again. Think if it had of happened earlier in the round he would have S**t the bags again



Is this based on anything?

A characteristic of McIlroy is his habit of going par,par, eagle, bogey, par, par, double bogey, birdie, birdie.

Inshort he relies on sheer talent and as yet has not shown much in the way of "course management".

So in a short career, say 800 rounds of golf, he has ONCE blown up.

And 700 times after double bogies he has not.

its based on the one and only major tournament that he looked to have wrapped up with such a commanding lead and after one mistake the wheels come off big time. This is the second major tournament that he has such a commanding lead, hopefully it does not happen. Just saying that i was glad that the double bogey came at the 18th




Last year's British open, when he was leading by a good bit and then had an 80?

Did ye see the weather?

And that is what I mean about inexperience, if he had fought a bit and got round in say 77 he would have had a chance on the Sunday, as it was Oosthuizen won easily as Rory was unable to put any pressure on him.

hang on, this is the THIRD major he has been leading out of the last 4, I must have missed one somewhere.
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Post  samin12 Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:25 pm

[quote="patrique"]
samin12 wrote:
patrique wrote:
samin12 wrote:Think he is lucky that double bogey came at the 18th, gives him time to get himself together again. Think if it had of happened earlier in the round he would have S**t the bags again



Is this based on anything?

A characteristic of McIlroy is his habit of going par,par, eagle, bogey, par, par, double bogey, birdie, birdie.

Inshort he relies on sheer talent and as yet has not shown much in the way of "course management".

So in a short career, say 800 rounds of golf, he has ONCE blown up.

And 700 times after double bogies he has not.

its based on the one and only major tournament that he looked to have wrapped up with such a commanding lead and after one mistake the wheels come off big time. This is the second major tournament that he has such a commanding lead, hopefully it does not happen. Just saying that i was glad that the double bogey came at the 18th




Last year's British open, when he was leading by a good bit and then had an 80?

Did ye see the weather?

And that is what I mean about inexperience, if he had fought a bit and got round in say 77 he would have had a chance on the Sunday, as it was Oosthuizen won easily as Rory was unable to put any pressure on him.

hang on, this is the THIRD major he has been leading out of the last 4, I must have missed one somewhere.[/quote]

And how many of those has he won?

Not getting into it Patrique because i dont know that much about golf, but basically every radio station and sports channels are amazed by his start but on the other hand are worried about it falling apart again. But hey, if he has only blown up once in 800 rounds of golf as you say then they are probably talking ***** too.

I hope he wins but it is cautious optimism with me. But that is my approach to most things. Like tomorrow and Ulster hurling final. The latter being very cautious Smile

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Post  black&white Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:58 pm

Remember seeing Rory in 2005 at the West of Ireland. The buzz around him even then was something else, everyone could see that he had the ability to be something special, and it's great to see him realising the immense potential that he has.
Hopefully he can see this out, because once he gets the first major behind him, he's going to be close to unstoppable.
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Post  patrique Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:44 pm

Not a problem Samin.

Getting a bi tetchy myself with all these fools in the media going on and on about meltdown.

If he wins this he will be one of the youngest ever. It took Mickelson 14 years to win one, after about ten meltdowns, but he has won a few since.

Great round by Westwood today.....
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Post  Jayo Cluxton Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:47 pm

7 ahead thru 8! He has the potential to go into tomorrow 10 clear. Go on Rory!
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