Re: The Golf thread

**Boxtyeater** Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:09 pm

OMAR wrote:I think and hope McIlroy has got over his British Open blow out especially when he came back with a super final round so hopefully it comes down to who can outscore rather than who doesn't calve. But I'm fairly sure we will still see some back 9 drama on sunday

Ah yes!! A much underused phrase, wonderful in it's own imagination....

Top marks Sir...

**Loyal2TheRoyal** Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:29 am

Four clear going into the final day - just as I predicted. He'll crumble now. At least it'll give RTE something to talk about in their Sports News - this and the Rugby got five times the airtime of the Grand National. No mention of the Meath born jockey who won the race or what about the Meath born jockey who fell in the second race and is in a coma in hospital. No McIllroy and Munster deserve all the plaudits.

**Jayo Cluxton** Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:22 pm

C'mon wee RORY!

**Thomas Clarke** Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:35 pm

Indeed Jayo. Strange to see such begrudgery from Loyal, for a likeable 21 year old Irishman.

I thought he was brilliant yesterday again, despite only holing one putt of any consequence. If he plays as well again tonight from tee to green, he should be fine. Fingers crossed!!

Well, coverage starting now, so time to enjoy perhaps the finest evening of sport of the year.

**The Puke** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:13 pm

McIlroy fills his togs Rolling Eyes

**The Puke** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:30 pm

is that shephards pie running down Rory's inside leg?

Ulster grit my bollix

**bocerty** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:31 pm

all over for Rory

**hurlingguru** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:47 pm

No bottle at all. Wouldn't like to see him on a Gaa pitch in a county final.

**bocerty** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:51 pm

hurlingguru wrote:No bottle at all. Wouldn't like to see him on a Gaa pitch in a county final.

hardly a fair comment HG - pressure out there would be intense to say the least.

**The Puke** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:51 pm

bocerty wrote:
hurlingguru wrote:No bottle at all. Wouldn't like to see him on a Gaa pitch in a county final.

hardly a fair comment HG - pressure out there would be intense to say the least.

Not the first and won't be the last to fall to pieces on the final day of one of the masters

**hurlingguru** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:54 pm

Yeah but he's done it before, he's either going to make it or not.

**Thomas Clarke** Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:06 pm

Bottle has had little to do with it, with only the pull on 10 a really bad strike - it is his putting that is the problem. Hasn't made a putt in the last 3 days. If he'd made even a quarter of the chances he gave himself inside 12-15 ft he would still be leading this tournament.

**GAAGenious** Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:06 pm

Scott will win now with that shot on 16th, his too loose

**Jayo Cluxton** Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:22 am

Very harsh on a 21 year old there lads. His day will come.

**Thomas Clarke** Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:40 am

hurlingguru wrote:Yeah but he's done it before, he's either going to make it or not.

He's 21. Only one person under the age of 23 has ever won the Masters. Jaysus, some of ye are very quick to write a lad off.

I also think that some people don't understand the pressure involved in golf at that level, which is more extreme than any other sport. It's not like football, where most decisions are made in split seconds, and players rarely have the time to get nervous or contemplate the consequences of failure. In golf, you might have 10-15 minutes to wait before making a crucial putt or drive. That is a long time to keep your body and mind in check.

**mullins** Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:50 am

Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:Wonder when the pressure will get too much for McIllroy? Can see him holding it together until Sunday and then it'll fall apart.

Loyal you called that well

**OMAR** Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:51 am

It hardly takes a soothsayer to predict that a 21 year leading on the last day of the masters will fail to handle the pressure. - Its just that maybe some of us wanted to see him win.

Sergio Garcia, Westwood, Norman - 96, Seve -86, ELS on several occasions, Vijay, Duval have all had their tribulations on Amen corner and countless othes who have been in contention and faded by 4 or 5 shots on the last day. Thankfully he is young enough and maybe you have to lose one before you can win one.
To have led the masters by 4 shots when he had putted poorly for the previous two days shows what he can be capable of if he can get it all to click at the right time.

**Thomas Clarke** Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:33 am

I think Omar has summed this up well. The pressure was there, certainly, but the main reason for McIlroy not winning the Masters was more to do with his putting than anything else. On day 1 he shot 65 when he should have had 62/63. Things got worse on day 2&3 when, still swinging immaculately, he missed putt after putt. If Rory had putted like, say, Charl Schwatzel or Jason Day, he would have been starting the final round at about -18. His ball-striking really was that good.

Even last night, his drive on the first was magnificent, but he 3 putted for bogey. And after the triple on the 10th, he hit fabulous drives/approaches on the 11th and 12th, and had makeable birdie putts on both of them. He 3-putted the 11th from 12ft for bogey, and 4-putted the 12th from 15 ft for double.

Rory is a very streaky putter - at times everything goes in, and at times nothing does. That isn't good enough at this level, and that more than anything is what he needs to address. If he is holing putts, his head will stay up and he will ignore the odd bad hole. If you can't make birdies, then a triple bogey must indeed be crushing.

**RMDrive** Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:21 pm

There has been remarkably little coverage of Tigers choke yesterday. How many easy putts did he miss on the back 9? It seems that Rorys demise has shifted attention away from it.

**bocerty** Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:38 pm

you would have to wonder just how long the mental scars of yesterday will take to heal. No doubt the lad is absolutely gutted at how yesterday materialised and its bound to be playing in his mind. Days like yesterday can take a long time to heal (just ask the Dublin footballers) and some folk never recover at all. McIlroy is lucky that he has youth on his side and should have plenty of opportunities to atone for yesterday.

I think it a bit harsh to criticise someone so young for having no bottle - yesterday was new territory for him and it all went pear shaped but i would like to think someday he will make up for it.

**Loyal2TheRoyal** Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:18 pm

mullins wrote:
Loyal2TheRoyal wrote:Wonder when the pressure will get too much for McIllroy? Can see him holding it together until Sunday and then it'll fall apart.

Loyal you called that well

Thank you Mullins although I take no satisfaction in being right.

Others on this thread are possibly a little too patriotic towards Rory, but we won't write him off just yet.

Big questions remain surrounding his temperament.

**mullins** Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:22 pm

OMAR wrote:It hardly takes a soothsayer to predict that a 21 year leading on the last day of the masters will fail to handle the pressure. - Its just that maybe some of us wanted to see him win.

Sergio Garcia, Westwood, Norman - 96, Seve -86, ELS on several occasions, Vijay, Duval have all had their tribulations on Amen corner and countless othes who have been in contention and faded by 4 or 5 shots on the last day. Thankfully he is young enough and maybe you have to lose one before you can win one.
To have led the masters by 4 shots when he had putted poorly for the previous two days shows what he can be capable of if he can get it all to click at the right time.

Would have disagree with you there Loyal made that call thursday..Sad that a poster can't give an opinion without being called a begrudger

Re: US Masters
Loyal2TheRoyal on Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:03 pm

Wonder when the pressure will get too much for McIllroy? Can see him holding it together until Sunday and then it'll fall apart

**mullins** Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:13 pm

bocerty wrote:you would have to wonder just how long the mental scars of yesterday will take to heal. No doubt the lad is absolutely gutted at how yesterday materialised and its bound to be playing in his mind. Days like yesterday can take a long time to heal (just ask Peter Canavan after 95 defeat to the Dubs) and some folk never recover at all. McIlroy is lucky that he has youth on his side and should have plenty of opportunities to atone for yesterday.

I think it a bit harsh to criticise someone so young for having no bottle - yesterday was new territory for him and it all went pear shaped but i would like to think someday he will make up for it.

**bocerty** Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:49 am

mullins wrote:
bocerty wrote:you would have to wonder just how long the mental scars of yesterday will take to heal. No doubt the lad is absolutely gutted at how yesterday materialised and its bound to be playing in his mind. Days like yesterday can take a long time to heal (just ask Peter Canavan after 95 defeat to the Dubs) and some folk never recover at all. McIlroy is lucky that he has youth on his side and should have plenty of opportunities to atone for yesterday.

I think it a bit harsh to criticise someone so young for having no bottle - yesterday was new territory for him and it all went pear shaped but i would like to think someday he will make up for it.

not like you to use someone else's material Mullins!!!!!

**mullins** Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:53 am

bocerty wrote:
mullins wrote:
bocerty wrote:you would have to wonder just how long the mental scars of yesterday will take to heal. No doubt the lad is absolutely gutted at how yesterday materialised and its bound to be playing in his mind. Days like yesterday can take a long time to heal (just ask Peter Canavan after 95 defeat to the Dubs) and some folk never recover at all. McIlroy is lucky that he has youth on his side and should have plenty of opportunities to atone for yesterday.

I think it a bit harsh to criticise someone so young for having no bottle - yesterday was new territory for him and it all went pear shaped but i would like to think someday he will make up for it.

not like you to use someone else's material Mullins!!!!!

Just fixing your rubbish about Dublin and replacing it with fact...

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